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"Evil Queens: A Queer Look at Disney History" Transcript

20 Jul 2020

An 'adaption' of Tinker Belles and Evil Queens, a video essay about Disney's relationship with gay representation.

Evil Queens:A Gay Look at Disney History (Video essay)

Evil Queens: Disney's Queer Cold War (Thumbnail)

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  • James makes some claim about Disney fighting hard to get the rights to the Wizard of Oz when... that didn't happen? (Jump to )
  • James fails to attribute a quote to Cynthia Erb, thus making it seem like he wrote what Cynthia said. (Jump to )
  • James fails to attribute a quote to Cynthia Erb again, thus making it seem like a continuation of a quote from before. (Jump to )
  • James makes some claim about Disney having problems with Howard Ashman's open gayness. (Jump to )
  • James claims Disney made a donation to Aid for AIDS as a PR stunt, when no evidence of such a donation even exists. (Jump to )
  • James claims that Disney was upset with Ashman's partner accepting his award for him, when actually Katzenberg personally arranged it. (Jump to )
  • James pulls from thin air something about AIDS patients wanting a ticking rose clock next to their beds, as some morbid send up to Beauty and the Beast? (Jump to )
  • James pulls out of his ass the idea that NAMBLA used images from Aladdin in their promotional material?? And even acknowledges how insane that would be to do, but claims it anyway??? (Jump to )
  • James (and Sean Griffin, to James's credit) misinterpret the point of the Aladdin song Proud of Your Boy, and James even claims it was cut for being too gay. (Jump to )
  • James thesaurus'd 'gay actor' to 'out actor', and as a result claims Nathan Lane was out before he actually was. (Jump to )
  • James infamously attributes the creation and botching of 'Gay Night' to Disney and not the actual people who did it. (Jump to )
  • James invents a story about Michael Eisner having a heart attack because Pirates of the Caribbean was too queer. (Jump to )
  • James invents a whole slew of Bob Iger fan fiction, claiming that he was progressive on LGBT issues (here ), turned Gay Night into Gay Days (here ), openly opposed G.W. Bush's gay marriage ban (here ), and donated to Obama under condition that Obama oppose Anti-LGBT laws (here )
  • James claims that Marvel refused to remove a gay scene from Endgame, with his source being 'trust me, bro'. (Jump to )
  • James repeats some twitter speculation that Jungle Cruise was delayed due to reshooting the movies over the gay character. (Jump to )
  • James co-opts Jes Tom's trans nonbinary story, including turning their story into 'many people' (here ), twice (here ), and thrice (here )
  • James, apropos of nothing, brings up NAMBLA because... Jafar x Aladdin is like gender-bent Dracula's Daughter?? (Jump to )


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Jul 14, 2020 Teased on Patreon.
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A deep dive into the history of LGBT representation (or lackthereof) in Disney films. From the Silly Symphonies to Star Wars and Marvel.

Based on the book "Tinker Belles and Evil Queens" by Sean P. Griffin

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00:00 Introduction
06:06 The Days of Walt Disney
29:46 The New Blood
58:51 A New Era

Tustin2121

This video was originally released on July 20th, 2020. In the Patreon Post announcing it, James claims to have accidentally publicly released it, and it was supposed to be Patreon-exclusive for a while.

On September 5th, 2020, James was called out by someone about how this video plagiarized whole pages from Tinker Belles and Evil Queens by Sean Griffin. James promptly took the video down and sent an email to Griffin asking if he could use the video. He put the video back up on September 10th with added crediting in the video's opening title sequence.

Sean Griffin himself wrote a blog post [archived] about the whole experience from his perspective. He didn't want to get dragged into this drama against his will. (Griffin has turned down HBomberGuy's offer to be compensated, as he was not struggling financially.)

 

And now, our feature presentation.

[Zooming into a magic mirror]

Evil Queens

Disney's Queer Cold War

Based on the book
Tinker Belles and Evil Queens
By Sean Griffin
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The "based on" section of the credits was not present in the original upload.

On November 8, 2018, Disney's CEO Bob Iger announced Disney's latest world conquering venture, Disney Plus. A digital streaming service, dubbed a "Netflix killer" by many in the media, that would make almost all of Disney's content streamable in one place.

[The DVD cover of Song of the South appears.] Not you, we don't talk about you!

Big draws to the service were announcements of original series focusing on Disney's Marvel and Star Wars brands, with Falcon and the Winter Soldier, WandaVision, Loki, and The Mandalorian being revealed, though only The Mandalorian had a planned release date anytime soon. Alongside the Disney owned brands would live content from companies the mouse had recently acquired, namely 20th Century Fox. The fraught buyout of Fox had played out in entertainment reporting for months with most of the Internet being in favor of the potential ever growing monopoly, since it would mean Marvel's X-Men and Fantastic 4 would be under the watchful eye of Kevin Feige at Disney.

But along with the mutants, Disney acquired hundreds of other properties from Fox including, The Rocky Horror Picture Show, which they've duly ignored ever since, and the film rights to the novel Simon vs. the Homo Sapien[sic: Sapiens] Agenda by Becky Albertali, a young adult novel about a teenage gay romance that had been adapted into a hit film earlier that year. Unlike Rocky Horror, Disney saw potential with Love, Simon's family-friendly representation of gay teens and announced a sequel streaming series as one of its main hooks to Disney Plus.

You see, Disney fully intended their streaming service to compete with Netflix, the dominant force in the streaming game, since it became a thing, and something Netflix had become well known for was their LGBT inclusive content. Whether it was original shows like Orange is the New Black Sense8, She-Ra and the Princesses of Power, and Grace and Frankie, or their extensive library of queer films, Netflix had pretty much cornered the LGBT streaming market. And Disney wanted a piece of it. According to The Hollywood Reporter, Disney has a massive amount of data pointing toward them being incredibly popular among the LGBT community. And so, they wanted to play into that by creating Love, Victor.

The company pushed Disney Plus's annual subscription early on, locking audiences into a full year's worth of membership before the vast majority of their original content had even begun production, and one of its big selling points was the diversity representation of Love, Victor. According to market research, approximately 3.5 million initial subscribers to Disney Plus were LGBT. Obviously, Love, Victor wasn't the sole reason reason for these people subscribing, but I'm willing to bet that it certainly helped boost those numbers.

Disney Plus went live in November of 2019, with The Mandalorian being their only major draw. Casting and production news surrounding Love, Victor had regularly trended on social media, and the upcoming series was considered Disney's next safe bet after The Mandalorian ran its course.

But then, in February of 2020, things changed. Disney announced that Love, Victor would not be appearing on Disney Plus, despite selling people on it from the very beginning. Instead, it would stream on the also Disney-owned Hulu, a service with half as many subscribers, and one not available almost anywhere outside the United States.

Their reasoning? Deadline reported that executives at Disney thought Love, Victor wasn't family friendly enough for the brand. I wonder what wasn't family friendly enough about it...?

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Note that in February 2020, Disney Plus and Hulu had similar numbers of subscribers. At the time of this video's initial release, Disney Plus had more subscribers but not quite twice as many (~60 million versus Hulu's ~35.5 million).

James seems to be referring to this article, though he never shows it.

One needs to ask, what would it have meant for a generation of queer kids to see a show representing them on a Disney platform? You don't get much more mainstream than Disney. That might have given hope to queer kids who are held down by their homophobic or transphobic families or communities.

And while many queer youth avoided Love, Simon in theaters for fear of being spotted seeing a gay movie, this TV sequel could have allowed them to take in a cute gay teen comedy from the comfort of their own laptop or phone. A possibility made all the more likely with how popular Love, Simon has been on streaming.

With Disney Plus in almost 50 million households by the time Love, Victor was released this June, that would have been a gigantic potential audience. But Hulu isn't in as nearly many homes. It isn't nearly as mainstream. Disney had the opportunity to say to those gay kids, "your stories are as good as anyone else's," but now, by shafting it over to Hulu, the Mouse has unequivocably[sic: unequivocally] said, "you don't belong here."

According to Hulu, Love, Victor was its most binged show of 2020, which is pretty impressive considering how we've all been locked up with little more to do than stream TV shows. So not only did Disney segregate the queer audience to a smaller platform, but it missed out on a hit series, something the service is in desperate need of, with data showing that aside from The Mandalorian, none of Disney Plus's original content has been a hit.

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No, it was "the most-binged original drama series on Hulu in 2020 during its first week and the second most-binged original on Hulu placing behind Solar Opposites." This video was released in July 2020, you wouldn't be able to say anything definitive about the most-binged shows over the entire year anyway.

When Disney made the announcement that Love, Victor was being sent to Hulu, I was... frustrated, but not shocked. I was frustrated that even in 2020, queer people aren't considered family friendly enough for Disney. But I wasn't shocked... because Disney has an out-and-proud history of using and abusing the LGBT community for its own means. In order to talk about that, we'll need to discuss Disney's prolific history of queer coding villains, straight-washing heroes, and pandering to the LGBT community just to ignore us once they have our money.

Part One: The Days of Uncle Walt

Gay culture has always held the Disney oeuvre in high regard, but why exactly? To say that Disney was queer coding in the early days would be a bit disingenuous. I hardly believe that good ol' Uncle Walt, hater of all things subversive, would insert queer coded messages into his early animated films, although six hairy men in one twink living together is a bit suspect.

But queer readings of Disney films are possible and quite well known. Really, it all comes down to fantasy.

Queer culture (particularly gay male culture) has long held a fascination with fantasy. The close association of gay men to the world of fantasy has attributed[sic: contributed] to some of the most common insults for gay men in Western culture: "fairy," "queen" and "princess." While elaborating on what constitutes a gay sensibility, Michael Bronski, LGBT historian, stresses the importance of imagination:

"Imagination is especially threatening to a culture that repressively and rigidly defines gender roles . . . because it can provide an alternative Vision to the real world."

Therefore, fantasy contains a possible critique of dominant heteronormative culture, as well as allowing for a proxy[sic: ???] to exist, one of the reasons young fantasy fans have been expected to grow out of the genre for decades. With LGBT people living every day as an alternative to dominant culture, ties to fantasy seem inevitable.

Tinker Belles (Griffin, 2000) p.62-63

Homosexual culture (particularly gay male culture) has long held a fascination with fantasy. The close association of gay men to the world of fantasy has contributed to some of the most common epithets for homosexuals in Western culture: “fairy,” “queen” and “princess.” Michael Bronski, elaborating on what constitutes a “gay sensibility,” stresses the importance of imagination to this sensibility: “Imagination is especially threatening to a culture that repressively and rigidly defines gender roles . . . because it can provide an alternative vision to the ‘real’ world.”40 Hence, fantasy contains a possibile critique of dominant society, as well as a picturing of an alternative. With self-identified lesbians and gay men living every day as an alternative to dominant culture, ties to fantasy seem logical.

Although not necessarily evoking a world of gender fluidity, fantasy is often described as a method of escape from the trials and tribulations of everyday reality. Living in a society that has outlawed homosexual desire, categorized it as a medical disease, labeled it as a sin against God and allowed (and often encouraged) violent acts against LGBT people, queer culture has unsurprisingly embraced the potential for escape that fantasy and fairy tales provide.

Heroes or heroines rise above their stations -rewarded for all their hardship and vilification by finding Prince Charming and/or being crowned as royalty. Others leave their drab and shabby existence and find a fascinating other world in which anything is possible.

This second scenario is the basis for one of the key texts of queer culture, the film version of The Wizard of Oz from 1939. In the narrative, an underappreciated adolescent girl in the barren Midwest is whisked away to a fabulous land filled with color and spectacle where she finds friends who value her more than her biological family seems to.

Tinker Belles (Griffin, 2000) p.63

Although not necessarily evoking a world of polymorphous perversity, fantasy is often described as a method of escape from the trials and tribulations of everyday reality. Living in a society that has outlawed homosexual desire, categorized it as a medical disease, labeled it as a sin against God and allowed (and often encouraged) violent retribution against homosexuals, homosexual culture has unsurprisingly embraced the potential for escape that fantasy and fairy tales provide. Heroes or heroines rise above their station — rewarded for all their hardship and vilification by finding Prince Charming and/or being crowned as royalty. Others leave their drab and shabby existence and find a fascinating other world in which anything is possible. This second scenario is the basis for one of the key texts in homosexual culture, the film version of Frank L. Baum’s The Wizard of Oz (1939). In the narrative, an underappreciated adolescent girl in the barren Midwest is whisked away to a fabulous land filled with color and spectacle where she finds friends who value her more than her biological family seem to do. Although Dorothy, the main character, consistently declares her desire to “go home,” almost every viewer (gay or otherwise) enjoys the film not for the sepia-toned representation of Kansas but for its breathtaking creation of a three-strip Technicolored Oz.

Funnily enough, Walt Disney fought hard to get the film rights to The Wizard of Oz but failed. He would rarely let the rights to something he wanted slip through his fingers ever again.

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I found this claim on a fandom site and a blog site and tracked it down to Wikipedia. I looked at the citation for the Wikipedia claim, which is a documentary on the making of The Wizard of Oz. The narrator, Angela Lansbury, says that the production of the movie was influenced by the success of Disney's Snow White and that MGM bought the rights in 1938, but there's no mention of Disney trying to buy the rights at that time, though Disney would buy the rights to the rest of Baum's Oz books in the 50s and make several adaptations over the years.

Another narrative strand in Disney's films that would have a great appeal to the queer community is the tale of the outsider. Throughout the studio's history, Disney has consistently returned to the stories about characters who don't "fit in" to society. Unlike the heroines of L. Frank Baum's Oz, these characters do not find another world to escape to and must confront their ostracization. Rebuffed by the gatekeepers of what is normal and decent, these rejects eventually find acceptance and happiness by discovering a use for those aspects of themselves that were originally thought to be deficient or abnormal. Hans Christian Anderson, now recognized as gay himself, provided what is probably the archetypal version of the story, "The Ugly Duckling," which was adapted by Disney twice - in 1930 and again in 1939.

Tinker Belles (Griffin, 2000) p.64

Another narrative strand in Disney’s films that would have a great appeal to homosexual subjects is the tale of the “outsider.” Throughout the studio’s history, Disney has consistently returned to stories about characters who don’t “fit in” to society. Unlike the heroines of Carroll and Baum, these characters do not find another world to escape to and must confront their ostracization. Rebuffed by the upholders of what is normal and decent, these “rejects” eventually find acceptance and happiness by finding a use for those aspects of themselves that were originally thought to be deficient or “abnormal.” Hans Christian Andersen, now recognized as homosexual himself, provided what is probably the archetypal version of the story, “The Ugly Duckling,” which was filmed by Disney twice — in 1930 and again in 1939. Other versions of this type of story can be found in Morris, the Midget Moose (1950), Lambert, the Sheepish Lion (1952), Goliath II (1960), and the very popular feature film Dumbo (1941)

There are two early Disney shorts about outsiders, though, that are more easily read as specifically gay texts and delightfully affirming of otherness. The first of these is the Oscar-winning short Ferdinand the Bull from 1937. The cartoon tells the story of a young bull who is content to spend his life "just sitting quietly and smelling the flowers" rather than going after other more conventionally masculine pursuits. While Ferdinand has never shown having romantic interest in another bull, the character's quiet affection for flowers associates him with images of gay men in American culture at the time. You see, in the 1920s and 30s, gay men were frequently referred to as "pansies" or "buttercups."

Tinker Belles (Griffin, 2000) p.64-65

There are two Disney texts about outsiders, though, that are more easily read as specifically “gay” texts and delightfully affirming of “otherness.” The first of these is the Oscar-winning short Ferdinand the Bull (1937). With backgrounds depicting a constantly sunny Spain, the cartoon tells the story of a young bull who is content to spend his life “just sitting quietly and smelling the flowers” rather than pursuing other more conventionally masculine pursuits. While Ferdinand is never shown having sexual interest in another bull, the character’s quiet affection for flowers associates him with images of homosexuals then current in American culture. In the 1920s and ’30s, gay men were frequently referred to as “pansies” or “buttercups,” and certain flowers, such as green carnations, had been secret symbols of one’s sexual interests since the days of Oscar Wilde.

Interestingly the short never seems to suggest that Ferdinand is somehow depraved or deserving of contempt for his desires. Although his mother wants to know why he doesn't want to run and leap and butt heads like the other young bulls, she accepts her son's lifestyle without much second thought. Ferdinand is never shown racked with guilt over his implied homosexuality or worried about what others may think of him. On the contrary, the cartoon continually shows close-ups of him batting his long eyelashes and sighing slowly and contentedly. Neither the narrator nor the visual design of the film ever judge Ferdinand as somehow wrong. Rather, there's a bemused acceptance of Ferdinand's attitude.

Tinker Belles (Griffin, 2000) p.65

Interestingly, the short never seems to suggest that Ferdinand is somehow depraved or deserving of contempt for his desires. Although his mother wants to know why he doesn’t want to run and leap and butt heads like all the other young bulls, she accepts her son’s “lifestyle” without much second thought. Ferdinand is never shown racked with guilt over his implied homosexuality or worried about what others may think of him. On the contrary, the cartoon continually shows close-ups of him batting his long eyelashes and sighing slowly and contentedly. Neither the narrator nor the visual design of the cartoon ever judge Ferdinand as somehow wrong in his choice. Rather, there is a bemused acceptance and delight in Ferdinand’s attitude.

This delight and acceptance of an effeminate male recurs in The Reluctant Dragon in 1941. If anything, the effeminacy of the titular Reluctant Dragon is even more pronounced than Ferdinand's. Like the bull, the dragon sports long emotive eyelashes and contains not an aggressive bone in his body, with the dragon prancing and pirouetting throughout the story. Yet, unlike the bull, the dragon has a voice.

Tinker Belles (Griffin, 2000) p.65

This delight and acceptance of an effeminate male reoccurs in The Reluctant Dragon (1941). If anything, the effeminacy of the Reluctant Dragon in the title segment of the anthology film is even more pronounced than Ferdinand’s. Like the bull, the dragon sports long emotive eyelashes and contains not an aggressive bone in his body, with the dragon prancing and pirouetting throughout the story. Yet, unlike the bull, the dragon has a voice — [...]

The Reluctant Dragon (1941)

Dragon: Now boy, now boy, just run along! Tell the child to go home.

A high-pitched masculine voice with the accent of an English Dandy. In fact, the dragon's long black fluffy ears often droop around the sides of his face in an approximation of Oscar Wilde. Rather than fight battles with knights, this dragon wants to play music, hold high tea and write poetry. At one point, the dragon is specifically referred to as a "punk poet," at a time when the common slang definition for "punk" was "homosexual male." (This phrase is repeated about five times in one fifteen second period of the short.) One of his poems, "Ode to an Upside-Down Cake," is filled with double entendre about sexual reversal:

"Sweet little upside down cake, cares and woes — you got ’em
Poor little upside-down cake, your top is on your bottom.
Alas, little upside-down cake, your troubles never stop.
Because, little upside-down cake, your bottom’s on your top!"

Tinker Belles (Griffin, 2000) p.65-66

[...] — a high-pitched masculine voice with the accent of an English dandy. In fact, the dragon’s long black fluffy ears often droop around the sides of his face in an approximation of the English dandy Oscar Wilde. Rather than fight battles with knights, this dragon wants to play music, hold high tea and write poetry. At one point, the dragon is specifically referred to as a “punk poet,” at a time when the common slang definition for “punk” was “homosexual male.” (This phrase is repeated about five times in one fifteen second period of the film.) One of his poems, “Ode to an Upside-Down Cake,” is fraught with double entendre about sexual reversal:

Sweet little upside down cake, cares and woes—you got ’em
Poor little upside-down cake, your top is on your bottom.
Alas, little upside-down cake, your troubles never stop.
Because, little upside-down cake, your bottom’s on your top!

A young boy who fancies himself an expert on knights and dragons warns the dragon that a knight has been hired by the town. thinking that the dragon is as ferocious as the legends tell, but both the boy and the dragon are surprised to find that the knight, Sir Giles, is as much a tea lover and poetry writer as the dragon is. The cartoon introduces both figures similarly - caught taking baths by the boy, and their figures contrasting sharply with the manly heroic illustrations contained in the boy's book.

Tinker Belles (Griffin, 2000) p.66

A young lad who fancies himself an expert on knights and dragons warns the dragon that a knight has been hired by the town, thinking that the dragon is as ferocious as the legends tell, but both the lad and the dragon are surprised to find that the knight, Sir Giles, is as much a tea lover and poetry writer as the dragon is. The cartoon introduces both figures similarly — caught taking baths by the lad, and their figures contrasting sharply with the manly heroic illustrations contained in the lad’s book.

Sir Giles and the dragon agree to stage a mock battle in order to please the town. The battle consists of hiding in caves or in smoke and dust - where the two have tea and, at one point, waltz with each other, while yelping and howling for the benefit of the audience.

Tinker Belles (Griffin, 2000) p.66

Sir Giles and the dragon agree to stage a mock battle in order to please the town. The battle consists of hiding in caves or in smoke and dust — where the two hold tea and, at one point, waltz with each other, while yelping and howling for the benefit of the audience. Although the town has ostensibly hired the knight to kill the dragon, the townspeo­ple watching the battle root for both sides as if it were a sporting event. When the dragon pretends to be killed, it seems that the town is in on the ruse. The story ends with the narrator intoning, “Having reformed the dragon, the satisfied villagers welcomed him into society,” as the film shows the dragon being toasted to by the town.

There is no mistaking how the film makes fun of the dragon's mincing manner and prissy pretensions. Yet, the film also makes it quite clear that the dragon does not believe in fighting, and the film doesn't specifically make fun of him for that. Made just before the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, many in the United States were also trying to keep from fighting and, consequently, would not quickly dismiss the dragon strongly held beliefs. Just as in Ferdinand the Bull, The Reluctant Dragon presents an easily read gay character under the guise of fantasy and shows characters accepting him as he is.

Tinker Belles (Griffin, 2000) p.66

There is no mistaking how the film makes fun of the dragon’s mincing manner and prissy pretensions. Yet, the film also makes it quite clear that the dragon does not believe in fighting, and the film doesn’t specifically make fun of him for that. Made just before the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor, many in the United States were also trying to keep from fighting and, consequently, would not quickly dismiss the dragon’s strongly held beliefs. Just as in Ferdinand the Bull, The Reluctant Dragon presents an easily read gay character under the guise of fantasy and shows characters accepting him as he is.

These fantasies of acceptance earned Walt Disney a lot of praise in the early days of animation, showing children that it's okay to be a little different. But children weren't the only people partaking in these fantasies.

Queer adults come to fantasy with a knowledge that children, for the most part, don't have. At the same time that gay individuals revel in the affirmations and opened possibilities that fantasy creates, there is also an awareness and acceptance of the impossibility of fantasy - as well as the absurdity of it all. Cassandra Amesley’s concept of "double reading," although written in regard to media fandom in general, also applies to a queer subject position. Amseley writes that a reader can:

"maintain and understand two divergent points of view at once, and use them to inform each other. In this way identification and distinction may occur simultaneously."

There's an irony in the existence of queer fantasy - a simultaneous indulgence in and distancing from the work being engaged in. A queer person can sit through Snow White and dream about being taken away from their drab life to a castle on a hill, but they can also enjoy the absurdity of Snow White's grotesquely warbling contralto. Michael Bronski sees such a double reading in J.M. Barrie's Peter Pan. While conventionally thought of as a children's story, Bronski describes it as, "a deeply disturbing meditation on the impossible desire for flight, not so much a fantasy of escape as it is a clear eyed exposure of escape's impossibility." The original 1904 play ends with Peter alone, and Barrie adds to the stage directions,

"It has something to do with the riddle of his being. If he could get the hang of the thing his cry might become 'To live would be an awfully big adventure1' but he can never quite get the hang of it, and so no one is as gay as he."

Tinker Belles (Griffin, 2000) p.68

But lesbians and gay men also come to fantasy with a knowledge that children, for the most part, have not acquired. At the same time that gay individuals revel in the affirmations and opened possibilities that fantasy creates, there is also an awareness and acceptance of the impossibility of fantasy — as well as the absurdity of it all. Cassandra Amesley’s concept of “double reading,” although written in regard to media fandom in general, also applies to a lesbian or gay subject position. Amesley writes that a reader can “maintain and understand two divergent points of view at once, and use them to inform each other. In this way identification and distanciation may occur simultaneously.”47 In regards to lesbian/gay use of fantasy, an irony exists — a simultaneous indulgence in and distancing from the work being engaged — which is far more developed than the normal child’s response. A lesbian/gay individual can sit through Snow White and dream of being taken away from a drab life to a castle on a hill, but s/he can also enjoy the absurdity of Snow White’s grotesquely warbling contralto. Michael Bronski sees such a double reading in Barrie’s Peter Pan. While conventionally thought of as a children’s story, Bronski describes it as “a deeply disturbing meditation on the impossible desire for flight . . . not so much a fantasy of escape as it is a clear-eyed exposure of escape’s impossibility.”48 The original 1904 play ends with Peter alone, and Barrie adds in the stage directions, “It has something to do with the riddle of his being. If he could get the hang of the thing his cry might become ‘To live would be an awfully big adventure!’ but he can never quite get the hang of it, and so no one is as gay as he.”49

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James changes the word "distanciation" to "distinction" in the first quote, thus causing the sentence to lose its meaning.

Fantasy often walks hand in hand with camp, one of the cornerstones of queer culture. Susan Sontag declared in her influential article "Notes on Camp" that camp was

"a way of looking at things . . . a quality discoverable in objects and the behaviour of persons."

Most importantly for this discussion, Sontag observes that camp is, essentially, roleplaying, taking on the appearance of something that you're not and amping up that depiction to an 11. Camp, by focusing on the outward appearance of a role, implies that roles and in particular gender roles are superficial, a matter of style.

Tinker Belles (Griffin, 2000) p.68-69

Fantasy often walks hand in hand with camp, one of the cornerstones of gay culture. Susan Sontag declared in her influential article “Notes on ‘Camp’” that camp was “a way of looking at things . . . a quality discoverable in objects and the behavior of persons.”50 Most importantly for this discussion, Sontag observes that “camp sees everything in quotation marks . . . to perceive Camp in objects and persons is to understand Being-as-Playing-a-Role.”51 Taking from this, but expressly tying “camp” to the homosexual subculture (which Sontag downplays in her analysis), Jack Babuscio asserts that “camp, by focusing on the outward appearances of role, implies that roles, and in particular, sex roles, are superficial — a matter of style.”52 Babuscio and others describe how camp was used as a communication device within homosexual culture, as well as a weapon to deconstruct the heterosexual essentialism of the dominant culture.

Plagiarism Video (Hbombergy, 2023)

When he rips off Griffin quoting more well-known writers like Susan Sontag, he reads them out and puts the quote on the screen. It looks like when he thinks he can get away with it, he passes obscure writers' words off as his own. [...]

Somerton reuses a section of the book where Griffin quotes gay journalist and activist Jack Babuscio who passed away of AIDS in 1990. Griffin explains who he is and discusses his quote, mentioning by name repeatedly. You know, the way you quote someone and discuss what they said. Somerton removes all mention and discussion of Babuscio but he still steals everything he says. He then skips a few paragraphs since the book discusses what Babuscio meant by this and that would give away James didn't write it.

The fascination that many gay men have with Disney villains is precisely over how they theatrically perform their gender roles, to the point where the "naturalness" of their gender can be called into question, Although the vengeful Queen in Snow White and the evil sorceress Maleficent in Sleeping Beauty are obstensibly gendered female, they both wear clothing that completely covers almost every inch of their bodies, including cowls or hoods that cover their heads. Only their hands and face are exposed, leaving the rest of the body cloaked. Their faces both have highly defined features (etched cheekbones, thin sharp noses strongly set jaws) in contrast to the softer designs of the heroines, and they also seem to have access to makeup, especially mascara and eyeshadow. Although Cruella de Vil in 101 Dalmatians is not clothed like these two characters, her facial design fits perfectly into this description. In other words, these villainesses are drag queens.

Tinker Belles (Griffin, 2000) p.73

The fascination that many gay men have with Disney villains is precisely over how they theatrically perform their gender roles, to the point where the “naturalness” of their gender can be called into question. Although the vengeful Queen in Snow White and the evil sorceress Maleficent in Sleeping Beauty (1959) are ostensibly gendered female, they both wear clothing that completely covers almost every inch of their bodies, including cowls or hoods that cover their heads. Only the hands and face are exposed, leaving the rest of the body cloaked. Their faces both have highly defined features (etched cheekbones, thin sharp noses, strongly set jaws) in contrast to the softer designs of the heroines, and they also seem to have access to makeup, especially mascara and eye shadow. Although Cruella de Vil in 101 Dalmatians (1961) is not clothed like these two characters, her facial design fits perfectly into this description. In other words, these villainesses look like drag queens. Jon Adams, in his reading of Disney villains as queer figures, writes:

Maleficent moves with grand sweeps of her cape and long-flowing gown, and strikes magnificent diva-like poses. It should also be mentioned that all her movements and poses are timed to the highly emotive melodies of Tchaikovsky's version of Sleeping Beauty - a gay composer himself. She also gets a number of well-placed pithy lines of dialogue. She makes a stunning entrance into the celebration of Aurora's birth, then regards the royal pageant as if it were a kiki.

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Traditionally, Disney’s animated villains move and speak with enormous style and panache — so much so that they often “steal” the scenes from the supposed leading characters in the stories. In this way, they more overtly “overperform” their gender roles and readily become the targets of camp readings. Like the evil Queen in Snow White and the wicked stepmother in Cinderella before her, Maleficent moves with grand sweeps of her cape and long-flowing gown, and strikes magnificent “diva"-like poses. It should also be mentioned that all her movements and poses are timed to the highly emotive melodies and rhythms of Tchaikowsky’s version of Sleeping Beauty — a homosexual composer of the “romantic” school. She also gets a number of well-placed pithy lines of dialogue. She makes a stunning entrance into the celebration of Aurora’s birth, then regards the royal pageant as if it were a soiree at the Hotel Algonquin in New York City. “Well, quite a glittering assemblage, King Stephan,” she observes coldly. “Royalty, nobility, the gentry, and . . . ,” she says, pausing to notice the three “good” fairies before adding with a low throaty chuckle, “Oh, how quaint — even the rabble.”

Sleeping Beauty (1959)

"Well, quite a glittering assemblage, King Stephan,"

— she observes coldly. —

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"Royalty, nobility, the gentry and . . .,"

— she says, pausing to notice the three "good fairies." —

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"Ahahaha... how quaint - even the rabble."

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Yes, James cuts back to his face every time to continue to plagiarize the narration needlessly.

Sleeping Beauty's Maleficent actively Works to spoil two generations of heterosexual coupling. The film begins with the convention of a book opening to announce "Once upon a time . . ." During this overtly narrated introduction, strong emphasis is placed on procreation, particularly on the king and queen's difficulties in having a child. The story proper begins with the countrywide celebration of the birth of the princess Aurora. When Maleficent arrives, she is informed quite bluntly, —

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As described in chapter 1, Disney’s films increasingly emphasized heterosexual courtship as the studio moved more heavily into narrative and character animation. Fairy tales like “Snow White,” “Cinderella" and “Sleeping Beauty” lent themselves quite easily to this celebration and promotion of heterosexuality. Consequently, on a more basic level, gay culture’s appreciation of Disney villains is a humorous cheering on of those forces within the narrative that disrupt and frustrate heterosexuality’s dominance. Sleeping Beauty’s Maleficent actively works to spoil two generations of heterosexual coupling. The film begins with the convention of a book opening to announce “Once upon a time. . . .” During this overtly narrated introduction, strong emphasis is placed on procreation, particularly on the king and queen’s difficulties in having a child. The story proper begins with the countrywide celebration of the birth of the princess Aurora. When Maleficent arrives, she is informed quite bluntly that she is “not wanted.” Maleficent retaliates by placing a death sentence on the child to be fulfilled on her sixteenth birthday. In this way, she attempts to take away the procreative success of the king and queen and kill the princess just at the moment when she herself would be about to explore heterosexual courtship.

Sleeping Beauty (1959)

Blue Fairy: "You weren't wanted."

Maleficent retaliates in the the most dramatic way possible by placing a death sentence on the child to be fulfilled on her sixteenth birthday. In this way, she attempts to take away the procreative success of the king and queen and kill the princess just at the moment when she herself would be about to explore heterosexual courtship.

Elsewhere in Disney canon, Cruella de Vil is not only a fashion icon who serves Safari realness every single day [dramatic campy pop], but she similarly sweeps into every scene like a grand dame making a stage entrance for an enthusiastic crowd. Constantly carrying an absurdly long cigarette holder, she uses it repeatedly to further overemphasize every gesture and inflection. No movement or line of dialogue is subtle or underplayed. Instead, every damn moment is played to the cheap seats. Whether trying to write out a check for the Dalmatian puppies or driving her roadster down a mountain road, Cruella overdoes everything. All these inflections seem to be attempts by the character to show show her astounding chic and cultured femininity. Yet, in her attempt to be the epitome of feminine glamour, she consistently and quite hilariously points out the concept of gender-as-roleplaying.

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Cruella de Vil similarly sweeps into every scene like a grand dame making a stage entrance for an enthusiastic crowd. Constantly carrying an absurdly long cigarette holder, she uses it repeatedly to further overemphasize every gesture and inflection. No movement or line of dialogue is subtle or underplayed. Instead, her every moment is “played to the cheap seats.” Whether trying to write out a check for the Dalmatian puppies or driving her roadster down a mountain road, Cruella overdoes everything. All these inflections seem to be attempts by the character to show her astounding chic and cultured femininity. Yet, in her attempts to be the epitome of feminine glamour (which is why she wants the Dalmatian coat that spurs the narrative), she consistently and quite hilariously points out the concept of gender-as-role-playing.

Cruella is also a single woman who has a fascination with Anita. They were friends in the past, or at least Cruella believed them to be friends, but they seem to have had a falling out, or at least a distancing when Anita went and found herself a man. A man Cruella truly loathes. One could argue that her desire for a Dalmation spotted coat doesn't really arrive until she comes to the conclusion that Anita will likely not be in her life anymore. Something to remember her by, or a way of punishing her?

This is barely subtext of course, and I wouldn't claim that the writers intended a lesbian reading of the two women, but it's easy enough to superimpose such context on top of the more blatant messaging of the film.

A feminist reading of the Disney classic, and of much of early Disney Princess canon as a whole, can be quite disturbing, The Evil Queen, the Queen of Hearts, and Maleficent in particular: older single women who have an obsession with a much younger girl. This was a common view of lesbians at the time in mainstream culture - older women who had never managed to find a man, and so were trying to foist their sapphic perversions onto young, innocent women.

These Disney villains wanting to kill the girls in question is easily explainable too, since most families would consider their daughters dead to them if they did turn out to be lesbians. "What fate could possibly be worse than losing your daughter in such a way?" Surely death would be preferable, at least then you'd get sympathy from the other people in your suburb instead of leering looks from other families at the grocery store. "It must be her parents' fault she turned out that way" is far worse than, "I'm sorry for your loss."

I know this sounds extreme, and God knows it is, but that wasn't an uncommon opinion of families in the 50s and 60s. Lesbians actually had it much harder than men when it came to family dynamics because if you had a gay son who was single, well, he was just a bachelor, not finished playing the field. You could come up with an excuse for him not having met the right girl yet, you could hide it. But a daughter, single, at 30? Something was obviously wrong with her, so what excuse could you give? Nothing socially acceptable for sure.

And so single older women became the go-to for villains in the Golden Age of Disney movies. They could easily adapted Swan Lake and had a truly menacing male villain, but that lingered in development hell and never got made by Disney. The Swan Princess from 1994 was actually made by New Line Cinema, even though a lot of people attribute it to Disney. Same goes for Fox's Anastasia in 1997.

Though I guess Anastasia technically is owned by Disney now. Huh... Anyway, back to the gays.

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Technically, The Swan Princess was made by Nest Family Entertainment and distributed by New Line Cinema.

The foppishness of Honest John the fox and Figaro the cat in Pinocchio make them easily read as a gay couple. Also in Pinocchio there's the storyline of young boys being abducted by an older man to be used in shocking ways.

Captain Hook, the villain of Peter Pan, was a classic case of the sissy stereotype so prevalent in movies at the time. Hook attempts to hide his deviant villainy behind the refined airs commonly associated with the English dandy. Hook speaks and moves floridly, as if every action was high melodrama. He also dresses the part of a dandy: introduced holding two cigars and a long gold cigarette holder, he wears a lavender blouse with ruffles. Later, as he prepares for battle, his companion Smee helps him don a purplish plumed hat and provides Hook with a lavender handkerchief to stuff into his shirt sleeve. Though cutthroat, the pirates under Hook's command are not above singing about the pleasures of being a pirate while dancing and waving tiny pirate flags and wiggling their hips in precision like chorus girls.

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Although Disney’s animated features lean heavily towards female villains, this is not to say that the few male villains do not fit into this paradigm of “queerness.” On the contrary, the foppishness of Honest John the fox and Figaro the cat in Pinocchio makes them easily read as a gay couple, as Vito Russo did in The Celluloid Closet.67 Another possible gay couple would be Smee and Captain Hook in Peter Pan. As with Honest John, Hook attempts to hide his deviant villainy behind the refined airs commonly associated with the English dandy. Voiced by Hans Conreid, Hook speaks and moves floridly, as if every action was high melodrama. He also dresses the part of a dandy: introduced holding two cigars in a long gold cigarette holder, he wears a lavender blouse with ruffles. Later, as he prepares for battle, his companion Smee helps him don a purplish plumed hat and a deep red velvet coat and provides Hook with a lavender handkerchief to stuff in his shirt sleeve. Though cutthroat, the pirates under Hook’s command are not above singing about the pleasures of being a pirate while doing minuets and then waving tiny pirate flags while they wiggle their hips in precision like chorus girls.68

Gideon is the name of the cat Griffin's looking for, Figaro is Geppetto's non-anthropomorphic cat.

Smee is constantly at Hook's side, and although Hook is the maniacal master of the relationship Smee is obviously the emotional rock that keeps hook balanced. Whenever Hook encounters the crocodile that took his hand, he wails for Smee like a true queen. While Hook battles with Peter, Smee loads up the lifeboat in anticipation of defeat. In a most revelatory scene, Smee advises Hook to hoist anchor and head to sea.

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Smee is constantly at Hook’s side, and, although Hook is the gruff maniacal master in the relationship, Smee is obviously the steady emotional rock that keeps Hook balanced. Whenever Hook encounters the crocodile that took his hand, he wails like a banshee for Smee. While Hook battles with Peter, Smee loads up the lifeboat in anticipation of defeat. In a most revelatory scene, Smee advises Hook to hoist anchor and head to sea, because there’s “women trouble on the island” and he doesn’t want to have anything to do with it.

"You know, there's trouble brewing on the island, women trouble,"

And he doesn't want any part of that.

Both Honest John and Captain Hook are represented as using their cultured dandyism to hide their evil intentions, and both are focused on young boys. Similarly, Shere Khan in The Jungle Book also moves and speaks in an overcivilized manner, yet again with the intention of luring a young boy away from safety. Voiced with exceptional archness by English actor George Sanders, Shere Khan is introduced stalking a young deer, and when he's interrupted, he merely mutters,

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Both Honest John and Captain Hook are represented as using their cultured dandyism to hide their evil designs, and both are focused on a young boy. Similarly, the tiger Shere Khan in The Jungle Book (1967) also moves and speaks in an “overcivilized” manner, yet again with the intention of luring a young boy from “safety.”69 Voiced with exceptional archness by English actor George Sanders, Shere Khan is introduced stalking a young deer, and, when he is interrupted, he merely mutters “Beastly luck.” His prospects brighten, though, when he overhears of a “young man cub” who is wandering alone in the jungle. He whispers to himself, “How delightful,” and vows to arrange “a rendezvous” with the boy. As he searches through the jungle, he plays the total gentleman — although Kaa the snake bitterly points out, “Who does he think he’s fooling?”

The Jungle Book (1967)

"What beastly luck."

His prospects brighten, though, when he overhears of a young man cub who is wandering alone in the jungle. He whispers to himself, —

The Jungle Book (1967)

“How delightful,”

— and vows to arrange a rendezvous with the boy. As he searches through the jungle, he plays the total gentleman - although Kaa the snake bitterly points out, —

The Jungle Book (1967)

"Ohhhh, who does he think he's fooling?"

It looks like Shere Khan isn't as good at playing it straight as he thinks.

Unlike Honest John and Captain Hook, though, Shere Khan does exude serious menace. He is not an underling for a more threatening villain (as Honest John was), and although witty, he's never portrayed as a buffoon (as Hook invariably was.) Rather, even the most whimsical of the tiger's lines contain an underlying threat. By the time of his death in 1966, Walt Disney had already had discussions with the FBI about the possibility of making "educational" films to warn children about the danger of the quote "homosexual pedophile." While it's impossible to draw a direct connection between these meetings and the sudden serious villainy of Shere Khan, it is easy to see how a Disney villain suddenly becoming actually scary and Walt's animosity toward the queer community might have had some connection. The LGBT community was no longer a silly subgroup to be vilified and made fun of; we were becoming a louder voice in the growing fight for civil rights, which frightened conservatives like Walt. Though he wouldn't live to see it, the Stonewall riots took place only two years after the release of The Jungle Book.

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Unlike Honest John and Hook, though, Shere Khan does exude serious menace. He is not an underling for a more threatening villain (as Honest John is). Although witty, he is never portrayed as a buffoon (as Hook invariably is). Rather, even the most whimsical of the tiger’s lines contains an underlying threat. By 1967, when the film was released, Walt had already had his discussion with the FBI about the possibilities of making educational films to warn children about homosexual pedophiles. While it is impossible to draw direct correlation between this meeting and the villainy of Shere Khan, the character’s threat might have some connection to the changes that were beginning to occur in American society — changes that seemed to be drawing the younger generation away from traditional values and morals. When Mowgli tries to escape from having to be brought to civilization, he encounters a beach bum bear, a quartet of Liverpudlian vultures and an African- American orangutan (who resides in an ancient city that plainly needs some urban assistance).70 Mirroring the breakdown of societal conventions that was occurring during the late 1960s, it is unsurprising, then, to find a predatory male with a clipped British accent more frightening than he had been years before.

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Yeah, he'd have to have the conversations by the time of his death, otherwise they wouldn't have been had at all.

Before his death, Walt seemed mostly unaware of the queer employees who worked under him. There were always people at Disney who self-identified as gay. Yet, society at large made most of these people hide their sexual orientation from others. Things were no less secretive during the first half of the century on the Disney lot than anywhere else, and with just cause. An anecdote from the production of Fantasia describes the general attitude towards homosexuality during this time. Animator Art Babbitt recalled,

"I started taking piano lessons. After the film opened, Walt heard about it, and in the presence of maybe fifty people at a story meeting, he said, 'I understand you're studying the piano.' I said 'Yeah, that's true.' He said, 'Well, what the hell's the matter with you; are you some kind of faggot?'"

["Faggot" is written on screen but bleeped out in the audio.]

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Ashman’s award in March of 1992 and that August’s formation of LEAGUE finally acknowledged what had probably been true from almost the beginnings of the Walt Disney Company — that amongst its employees there existed individuals who self-identified as homosexuals. While such a statement may be specifically hard to document, it is almost as hard to believe that there weren’t any lesbians or gay men working at the studio during Walt’s life. Working in an industry that has traditionally attracted a large number of homosexuals, it only stands to reason that some percentage of the work force was lesbian or gay during Walt’s reign. Yet, society at large made most of these individuals hide their sexual orientation from others. Things were no less secretive during the first half of the century on the Disney lot than anywhere else, and with just cause. An anecdote related to the production of Fantasia (1940) describes the general attitude towards homosexuality during this time. Animator Art Babbitt recalled, “I started taking piano lessons. After the film opened, Walt heard about it, and in the presence of maybe fifty people at a story meeting, he said, ‘I understand you’re studying the piano.’ I said, ‘Yeah, that’s true.’ He said, ‘Well, what the hell’s the matter with you; are you some kind of faggot?’”9

Actors weren't immune to Walt's homophobia either. Tommy Kirk began as a juvenile actor in some of Disney's TV shows and films - playing one of "The Hardy Boys" on The Mickey Mouse Club and then starring in Old Yeller and The Shaggy Dog. The inordinate success of both films made Kirk a hot commodity at the studio. Kirk himself remembers Walt Disney's introducing the youngster to Hedda Hopper as his good luck kid. When the 1960s started, Kirk had become the most promising male actor under contract to the studio and was often paired with the studio's reigning female star Anette Funicello.

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The most notorious example to serve as a warning to gay and lesbian employees of Disney was the case of Tommy Kirk. Tommy Kirk began as a juvenile actor in some of Disney’s TV shows and films — playing one of “The Hardy Boys” on The Mickey Mouse Club and then starring in Old Yeller (1957) and The Shaggy Dog (1959). The inordinate success of both films made Kirk a hot commodity at the studio. Kirk himself remembers Walt Disney’s introducing the youngster to Hedda Hopper as his “good luck kid.”11 When the 1960s started, Kirk had become the most promising male actor under contract to the studio and was often paired with the studio’s reigning female star, Annette Funicello. (Of course, many might choose to remember more fondly his brotherly friendship with James MacArthur in Swiss Family Robinson [1960].)

Kirk's promising future ended quickly, though.

"I was 18,"

Kirk recalled to an interviewer in the 1990s. It was around this time that Kirk seemed to recall accepting that he was gay. Yet, for a young and easily recognized actor during the early 1960s, there were very few avenues to explore this part of his personality, without adverse attention anyway.

"I was young, and I had money, [he recounted.] I started fooling around and I got involved with a boy. We saw each other maybe three times . . . once at a public pool in Burbank. The boy's parents found out and went to see Walt at the studio."

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Kirk’s promising future ended quickly, though. “I was 18 [in 1961],” Kirk recalled to an interviewer in the 1990s. “My body was still growing.” It was around this time that Kirk seems to recall self-identifying as a homosexual. Yet, for a young and easily recognized actor during the early 1960s, there were very few avenues to explore this part of his personality without adverse attention. “I was young, and I had money,” Kirk recounted, “I started fooling around and I got involved with a boy. We saw each other about three times . . . once at a public pool in Burbank. The boy’s mother found out and went to see Walt at the studio.”12

Kirk was summoned to the studio to speak directly with Disney. While Kirk tried to stammer out an explanation, he was informed that his contract had been terminated. No criminal charges were placed on Kirk, and the firing (much less the reasons for the firing) was never discussed in the press. Such a lack of reaction seems to suggest that the studio [air quotes] "dealt" with both the parents of the other boy as well as the press to keep the story "under wraps." When Kirk returned to the Walt Disney Studio in 1984 as a part of the Mickey Mouse Club reunion, he discovered that his reputation still preceded him. According to Kirk, an employee from Disney's publicity department told him,

"If I had my way, all you people would be buried in the same grave."

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Kirk was summoned to the studio to speak directly with Walt. While Kirk tried to stammer out an explanation, he was informed that his contract had been terminated. No criminal charges were placed on Kirk, and the firing (much less the reasons for the firing) was never discussed in the press. Such a lack of reaction seems to suggest that the studio “dealt” with both the parents of the other boy as well as the press to keep the story “under wraps.”13 Ironically, right after Kirk was let go, Disney brought him back to film The Monkey’s Uncle (1964), a sequel to The Misadventures of Merlin Jones (1963). During the six weeks of filming, Kirk became painfully aware that many of the people he was working with had heard the rumors. “It was a terrible feeling. I was very uncomfortable, knowing that they were watching me closely.”14 Although Kirk was subsequently able to land work in a few American-International “beach party” musical comedies (again partnered with Annette Funicello), by the mid-1960s Kirk’s career as an actor was over. A slide into drug dependency and recovery followed until, in 1975, he began a carpet and upholstery cleaning business. When Kirk returned in 1984 to the Walt Disney studio as part of a Mickey Mouse Club reunion, he discovered that his reputation still preceded him. According to Kirk, an employee from Disney’s publicity department told him, “If I had my way, all you people would be buried in the same grave.”15

After Walt's death, the Disney Company seemed rudderless. The new leadership couldn't seem to produce the kind of magic Walt had at his prime or even in his waning years. That would change, though, in the 1980s with the introduction of the new executive team of Michael Eisner, Frank Wells, and Jeffrey Katzenberg.

Part Two: The New Blood

One of their first ventures was to take Disney into a more adult realm by creating subsidiaries like Hollywood Pictures and Touchtone Entertainment. Down and Out in Beverly Hills was the first R-rated film Disney ever released. Bette Midler swears throughout the film and screams so loudly during an orgasm that everyone in the entire household hears. Also included are scenes of Midler's husband (played by Richard Dreyfuss) and their house guest (Nick Nolte) having sex with the Latina maid of the house, and there are overt hints that the son of the family is gay. Older Disney executives gritted their teeth, but the film went on to make 62 million dollars in 1986. That's 148 million today. Following in the film's footsteps, Ruthless People was another raunchy comedy with Bette Midler that went on to take in 71.6 million dollars.

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Down and Out in Beverly Hills was the first film to be released by the Walt Disney Company with an “R” rating, mainly for its sexual content than for any violence. Actress Bette Midler swears throughout the film and screams so loudly during a sexual orgasm that everyone in the entire household hears. Also included are scenes of Midler’s husband (played by Richard Dreyfuss) and their houseguest (Nick Nolte) having sex with the Latina maid of the house, and there are intimations that the son in the family is gay. Older Disney executives gritted their teeth, and the film went on to make $62 million in domestic grosses. Following in this film’s footsteps, Ruthless People was another flashy raunchy comedy with Bette Midler and an ensemble cast that went on to take in $71.6 million at the box office.24

Thomas Pasatieri, an openly gay composer and orchestrator who arranged scores for some of Disney's films at the time, described the music department as so gay-friendly that when one straight artist was let go from a project, he threatened to sue the studio for sexual discrimination... against heterosexuals. But being hired and being appreciated were two different things. At a time when all the studios and major tech companies began offering domestic partnership benefits to their LGBT employees, gay Disney employees began calling for the same thing. While at a charity event, an Apple executive cornered Michael Eisner in order to discuss domestic partner benefits and why Disney was lagging behind. Eisner reportedly stated that it would simply cost too much money since he figured about 40 percent of Disney's workforce was LGBT.

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Thomas Pasatieri, an openly gay composer and orchestrater who arranged scores for some of Disney’s films over the past decade, described the music department as so gay-friendly that when one straight artist was let go from a project, he threatened to sue the studio for sexual discrimination against heterosexuals!26 An anecdote amongst Disney’s homosexual employees, and reported in at least one industry periodical, demonstrates that even Disney’s top-ranking executives often agreed that an inordinate number of homosexuals were now working for the company.27 As homosexual Disney employees began calling for the company to grant domestic partners of homosexual employees the benefits that were given to the spouses of married heterosexual employees, an Apple computer executive met Michael Eisner at a charity function. When this executive cornered Eisner in order to discuss domestic partner benefits (Apple, like most of the computer industry, had already begun these benefits), Eisner reportedly stated that he feared a huge loss of money because he figured that about 40 percent of Disney’s work force was gay or lesbian.

Disney did have one employee who was out and who they couldn't convince to go back into the closet, though: lyricist Howard Ashman, the man who created the award-winning soundtracks for The Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast and Aladdin. Reportedly, Disney executives were frustrated with Ashman being so publicly out, but his growing clout made it impossible to do anything about it.

But sadly, in March of 1991, Ashman passed away from complications related to AIDS. Later that year, Beauty and the Beast would go on to become a box office sensation and become the first animated movie to ever be nominated for Best Picture. Its main competition for Best Picture was seen to be The Silence of the Lambs, which was being protested against by the LGBT community for its portrayal of psychopath Buffalo Bill.

Disney saw an opening to win over the gay community and made a giant donation to the Aid for AIDS Foundation. The seemingly altruistic act was later confirmed to be nothing more than a PR stunt, as the money had come out of Beauty and the Beast's award campaign budget. Disney saw it as nothing more than a "for your consideration" ad. When the Oscars rolled around, Disney lost Best Picture to The Silence of the Lambs, and when Howard Ashman's partner Bill Lauch took to the stage to accept the Oscar for Best Song on his late partner's behalf, Disney executives reportedly fumed.

Fact Check (Todd in the Shadows, 2023)
  1. Disney cynically exploited Howard Ashman's death

Okay, the best source I could find about Disney's relationship with Howard Ashman was the book Disney War and here's what it says:

First, about Howard Ashman's open gayness being a problem for Disney, the book points in the opposite direction. It says that when Disney recruited Ashman, he asked them if his sexuality was gonna be an issue, and he was assured that it would not be. And when he later revealed his AIDS diagnosis to Eisner and Katzenberg and animation head Peter Schneider, they were all very supportive.

Second, this supposed donation to the AID for AIDS Foundation, there's just nothing. I've looked and looked and found no connection between Disney and this charity, or any other shocking revelations about their Oscar campaign. There's just no publicity for this supposed publicity stunt. Disney did make a charity album for the Pediatric AIDS Foundation in 1991, but uh, it had no connection to the Oscars. They auctioned off some Beauty in the Beast art for the Gay Men's Health Crisis in 1992, but that would have been after the Oscars. The only connection I could find between Disney and AID for AIDS was the Disney Gay Night event I mentioned previously. And again, that was not connected to the Disney corporation.

And as for them being upset about Ashman's partner accepting his Oscar, according to Disney War Katzenberg arranged that personally. If any other executives felt differently about it, please tell me where you found this information. But I don't understand why they'd make pandering donations to gays and then not be okay with a gay man on stage. Are they pandering to gays or not?

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James' own source, Tinker Belles and Evil Queens, provides additional evidence for the fact that Ashman was well-supported, at least by Katzenberg. It mentions that Katzenberg and Ashman had a close relationship several times (108, 192), and Katzenberg is said to have been involved with AIDS charities (110). Katzenberg called Ashman a "guardian angel" alongside Walt Disney, and there was a tribute to Ashman at the end of Beauty and the Beast (144). Also, a Washington Post article claims that Disney even built a production unit near his house so that he could keep getting his treatments nearby.

Disney's animosity toward the queer community wasn't just all behind the scenes, though. It still managed to make it onto the big screen, beginning immediately with the first film of the Disney Renaissance, The Little Mermaid.

The film's source material was obviously written by noted gay writer Hans Christian Anderson, so there's an immediate queer reading of the text available, but Disney went further than that by carrying on their tradition of having an older female villain who is predatory toward a young girl. But to add a special twist, Ursula was actually modeled after drag legend Divine. Though despite rumors, Disney never entertained the thought of offering the part to Divine and always intended on casting a female voice talent. Recent calls for the live action Ursula to be played by a drag queen were roundly ignored.

Disney also never intended Ursula to sing in the film. But Howard Ashman thought otherwise, forcing Disney to accept the now iconic villain song "Poor Unfortunate Souls." In the number, Ursula uses various methods to convince Ariel to sell her soul, from looking sorry and saintlike to shimmying madly in excitement. In its use of vocalist Pat Carroll's ability to slide up and down the musical register, from shrieks to baritones, "Poor Unfortunate Souls" is an unmistakable sendup of the campy female impersonation numbers of underground queer films in the early days of Hollywood.

Tinker Belles (Griffin, 2000) p.146-147

Again, how much of this is due to Ashman needs to be placed in context with others working on the films. For example, Andreas Deja obviously did his share in adding to the camp value of these projects. Ashman himself probably had little say in the model sheet for Ursula. Yet, her campy nature is due at least in part to the words that Ashman gives her to perform. In The Little Mermaid, Ashman provided Ursula with a solo number, “Poor Unfortunate Souls.”37 In the number, Ursula uses various methods to convince Ariel the mermaid to sell her soul — from looking penitent and saintlike to shimmying madly in excitement. “In its use of vocalist Pat Carroll’s ability to slide up and down the musical register, from shrieks to baritones, ‘Poor Unfortunate Souls’ is an unmistakable sendup of the campy female impersonation number.”38 Similarly, although Deja must share credit, Ashman not only helped conceive Gaston in Beauty and the Beast but emphasizes his campiness through the lyrics of his solo number, “Gaston,” a hysterical “male impersonation” number! As was discussed in chapter 2, the tradition of reading Disney villains as “gay-tinged” reaches much farther back than Ashman’s involvement with the studio. Ashman’s creation of musical numbers for the villains, though, underlines this position, allowing mainstream audiences and reviewers to positively revel in the campiness of their villainy.

Plagiarism Video (Hbombergy, 2023)

Throughout this video James uses parts of the book where Griffin quotes someone else, like here. This is from an essay by Cynthia Erb. James just keeps reading and doesn't tell you he's quoting anyone, and even changes it slightly. Almost like he knows it's wrong and is trying to get away with it.

I was shocked to learn that a queer reading of Beauty and the Beast was actually pretty well documented in popular culture at the time of its release. Not just comparing Gaston to the gay muscle queens that had become so well known in large urban centers, mostly because it was believed that high muscle mass would help you fight off the effects of HIV, but the Beast himself became an AIDS allegory in the mainstream press, with Dan Rather writing an article in the LA Times that read,

"Think of the spell as AIDS, with the same arbitrary and harshly abbreviated limitations on time, and you feel the Beast's loneliness and desperation a little more deeply. He's just a guy trying as hard as he can to find a little meaning, a little love, a little beauty while he's still got a little life left. The visual contrast made between the deteriorated form of the Beast and the painting of him as a beautiful young man possibly sets up a stereotypical opposition between ugliness and beauty reminiscent of Oscar Wilde's The Picture of Dorian Gray... but in this context the ugliness/beauty dyad also supports a tension, crucial to the film's AIDS allegory, between the issue of having health and not having it."

Tinker Belles (Griffin, 2000) p.134

In fact, one doesn’t now necessarily need to identify as homosexual in order to find a subtext. CBS anchorman Dan Rather, in a special column for the Los Angeles Times in early 1992, noticed an AIDS allegory going on within Disney’s film version of the fairy tale Beauty and the Beast (1991):

Think of the spell [the Beast is under] as AIDS, with the same arbitrary and harshly abbreviated limitations on time, and you feel the Beast’s loneliness and desperation a little more deeply. He’s just a guy trying as hard as he can to find a little meaning — a little love, a little beauty — while he’s still got a little life left.3

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Rather than attributing this quote to Cynthia Erb, James reads it as if it is part of Dan Rather's quote. (This is the second time he's misattributed Cynthia Erb in this video.) He also changes an "or" to "and."

Tustin2121

He literally shoved both quotes together into one title card screen, presenting them as all part of one thing.

Tinker Belles (Griffin, 2000) p.134

Cynthia Erb, writing for a more academic audience, agrees with Rather’s interpretation of the film:

The visual contrast made between the deteriorated form of the Beast and the painting of him as a beautiful young man possibly sets up a stereotypical opposition between ugliness and beauty reminiscent of Oscar Wilde’s The Picture of Dorian Gray, but in this context the ugliness/beauty dyad also supports a tension, crucial to the film’s AIDS allegory, between the issue of having health or not having it.4

Certainly, the lyrics written for "The Mob Song," in which the villagers set out to attack the Beast, add to this method of the interpretation. In the song, the villagers clearly state, "We don't like what we don't understand, in fact, it scares us," and thus they must save their families and their lives by killing the Beast. The quotation reverberates strongly as a parallel to AIDS panic that many individuals, as well as religious and political groups, expressed during the spread of the disease.

Tinker Belles (Griffin, 2000) p.134-135

Certainly, the lyrics written for “The Mob Song,” in which the villagers set out to attack the Beast, add to this method of interpretation. In the song, the villagers state, “We don’t like what we don’t understand, in fact it scares us,” and thus they must save their families and their lives by killing the Beast. The quotation reverberates strongly as a parallel to AIDS panic that many individuals, as well as religious and political groups, expressed during the spread of the disease. As Harry Benshoff notes, [...]

NBC News Now ¶ ?

James uses an NBC News Now YouTube upload, published on the 50th anniversary of the Stonewall Riots. The interviewee in the clip James uses is Cliff Morrison, being interviewed by Chase Cain for NBC News Now. Cliff was a former nurse at the San Francisco General Hospital, AIDS Ward 5B, the world's first AIDS ward. The report highlights a documentary coming out called "5B" about this ward.

NBC News Now

[Presented on a small CRT vt at an odd angle. The camera cut-zooms into Brokaw's face at intervals.]

Tom Brokaw: "A sizable majority of Americans believes that no segment of the general population will be spared AIDS."

[Cut to documentary footage of an older gentleman in dark blue and white suit being interviewed in outdoors Florida.]

Interviewee: "You know, this felt like, it-- this felt like the end of the world. I-I've had the opportunity again to kind of revisit the reason why I'm still working at such a late age is because I didn't plan for retirement. Just like everybody else, I thought I was going to be dead."

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James, of course, does everything in his power to not credit the source of this clip. He crops the bottom of the video out to cut off the ever-present "NBC NEWS NOW" logo, and that's what gives the "Tom Brokaw" potion a weird offset. You can actually see the edge of a "1986" marker in the top-left of James's hack job.

The source video's closed captioning is screwy "Broadcast Quality" CC, which means its bad and 30 seconds late, and so didn't ping on Filmot when I was trying to search for this clip. So thanks to Hasan Reacts for reacting to this clip and thus allowing YouTube's much better auto-captioning to pick up on the words Cliff is saying.

To Disney's credit, "the Mob Song" taps into the demonization of people with AIDS, but its placement in the film definitely sides with the demonized rather than the lynchers. Whether this was Ashman's own coded messaging that flew under Disney's radar or was sanctioned by the Mouse, it's still worth noting. As queer scholar Harry Benshof notes,

"recent critical essays in the mass media have demonstrated how the representational codes and narrative tropes of the monster movie . . . have been grafted onto much television and newspaper coverage of AIDS."

Tinker Belles (Griffin, 2000) p.134-135

[...] of the disease. As Harry Benshoff notes, many “recent critical essays on the mass media have demonstrated how the representational codes and narrative tropes of the monster movie . . . have been grafted onto much television and newspaper coverage of AIDS.”5 “The Mob Song” taps into this demonization of persons with AIDS (PWAs) but its placement in the film definitely sides with the demonized rather than the lynchers speaking.

The Beast has given the life span of a magical rose to find a cure to his curse (someone to love that will love him in return), and although missing the deadline means only that he'll remain a beast permanently, the narrative contrives to have him at the brink of death just as the last petal falls from the flower. This messaging was adopted by many people hospitalized with the disease at the time. Those who knew they were near death would ask for a pink rose to sit on their bedside, a beautiful ticking clock counting down to when they, too, would be lost forever.

Tinker Belles (Griffin, 2000) p.135

The Beast is given the life span of a magical rose to find a cure to his curse (someone to love that will love him in return), and although missing the deadline means only that he’ll remain a Beast permanently, the narrative contrives to have him on the brink of death just as the last petal falls from the flower. Also, the Beast goes through many of the “five stages” of emotional reaction to impending death: anger, denial, bargaining, depression and acceptance. The Beast is definitely an angry creature, and his initial attempts to woo Belle are blatant bargaining, done simply to remove the curse without necessarily feeling any actual love towards her. When he allows Belle to [...]

Fact Check (Todd in the Shadows, 2023)
  1. Dying AIDS patients kept a "Beauty and the Beast" rose by their beds

(God, this one video in particular man, I--) Anyway, the source for this fact is... [Close-up of the "Source?" "I made it up" meme] you know, who knows, question mark. I'm inclined to disbelieve it just because... just, I mean just because it's so ghoulish and horrible to keep a symbolic ticking death clock by your bed. Are, are you sure you're not thinking of just like, regular flowers that you give to hospital patients? Again, this is one of the segments that's largely sourced from Tinker Belles, everything he says about Beauty and the Beast AIDS subtext is from that book except this detail.

[James reads this part in a quite emotional, almost tearful voice.]

Lesbian and gay employees of the theme parks remarked on how many of their friends with AIDS desired to visit Disneyland and Walt Disney World one last time. Also, many AIDS quilt panels include Disney imagery - mouse ears, Disney song lyrics and the like. Some panels commemorate Disney employees lost, while some paid tribute to a fan's devotion to the studio's products. Such dedication to a magical brand that used their suffering to win Oscars.

Tinker Belles (Griffin, 2000) p.135-136

PWAs “poached” from Disney texts long before Beauty and the Beast. Lesbian and gay employees of the theme parks remark on how many of their AIDS-infected friends desire to visit Disneyland and Walt Disney World, specifically seeing their trips as a way of dealing with their status. Also, many AIDS quilt panels include Disney imagery — mouse ears, Disney song lyrics and the like. Some panels commemorate Disney employees, but some pay tribute to a fan’s devotion to the studio’s products. While wrong to conceive that every Disney-influenced panel must refer to a homosexual (thus implying that AIDS is only a homosexual disease), certain panels make the sexual orientation of the remembered person quite clear. For example, one particularly colorful panel commemorating an adult male depicts an underwater scene and contains a number of lines from songs written for The Little Mermaid (1989), the animated musical Disney made just before Beauty and the Beast. Amongst these are such quotes as “The men up there don’t like a lot of blather,” and “Don’t forget the importance of body language.” The attention paid by television and print news to the displays of the AIDS Quilt might have made some, like Rather, more aware of the importance of Disney in these people’s lives, thus making it easier to understand the 1991 film as an AIDS allegory.

With Howard Ashman gone, many at Disney worried that the magic might have been lost.

Waking Sleeping Beauty (0:30)
This footage is from a YouTube upload of a DVD Bonus Feature from "Waking Sleeping Beauty" discussing Howard Ashman. James doesn't seem to modify anything, but does not cite where this footage is coming from, and of course uses a section where no one is identified on-screen.
Waking Sleeping Beauty

[Sound fading in]

Don Hahn (Disney Animator): "Howard is referred to by Roy Disney as another Walt, which shocked me when I was interviewing with him. Of all people, why would Roy say this about Howard Ashman? But he was, to us and to our generation, he was a Walt Disney type."

Peter Schneider (Producer): "And I think Howard Ashman was the key to much of our success."

But executives steamrolled ahead with their next big animated film, Aladdin. With some of the songs for the film having been completed by Ashman before his death, they felt secure in its prospects. Gay employees especially were excited because Ashman had managed to insert even more of his camp sensibilities into Aladdin than either Mermaid or Beast, especially when it came to the Genie, played by lifelong queer ally Robin Williams.

Just as critics noticed that some aspects of these new Disney animated features were for savvier audiences, they wondered

"What will children make of a film whose main character - the Genie himself - has such obvious parental appeal? They [won't] . . . know precisely what Mr. Williams is evoking."

While Robin Williams' impromptu recording sessions did a lot of the heavy lifting for the final character of the Genie, Ashman's songs for him had been written long before Williams was even signed, and the character that Ashman creates through his lyrics definitely portrays an overblown, larger than life, gay-tinged figure. The genie first appears in a huge production number centered around him telling Aladdin, —

tobicat

James again changes one word in the quote, "[main] attraction" to "[main] character," making it incorrect because the Genie is not the main character, Aladdin is.

Tinker Belles (Griffin, 2000) p.147

Nowhere is this camp perspective more apparent than in the character of the Genie in Aladdin. Just as critics noticed that some aspects of these new Disney animated features were for “savvier” audiences, they wondered “What will children make of a film whose main attraction — the Genie himself — has such obvious parent appeal? They [won’t] . . . know precisely what Mr. Williams is evoking.”39 While Robin Williams’ impromptu recording sessions contributed mightily to the final character of the Genie, Ashman’s songs for the Genie had been written long before Williams was signed, and the character that Ashman creates through his lyrics definitely portrays him as an overblown, larger than life “gay-tinged” figure. The Genie first appears in a huge production number centered around him telling Aladdin, “C’mon whisper what it is you want / You ain’t never had a friend like me.” Throughout the song, the Genie zips from one metaphor to another in endless enthusiasm, sprinkling his speech with phrases like “true dish!” and a lisping “you big nabob!” Later, as Aladdin enters the palace disguised as “Prince Ali,” the Genie promotes him shamelessly by pointing out “That physique! How can I speak? Weak at the knee,” and describing how he “got all dolled up and dropped by.”

Aladdin

Genie: “C’mon whisper what it is you want / You ain’t never had a friend like me. Yessir, we—”

Throughout the song, the Genie zips from one metaphor to another with endless enthusiasm, sprinkling his speech with phrases like "true dish."

Later, as Aladdin enters the palace disguised as Prince Ali, the Genie promotes him shamelessly by pointing out —

Aladdin

Genie: “That physique! How can I speak? Weak at the knee,”

— and describing how he “got all dolled up and dropped by.”

While these examples tend to promote reading the Genie as a gay male, the character's manic nature often spills beyond this simple category, epitomizing what is truly a queer figure. While casting Williams makes the Genie ostensibly male, "he" rapidly shifts into a number of caricatures of famous people (William F. Buckley, Groucho Marx, Ethel Merman, Jack Nicholson and Arsenio Hall amongst others) and even gets in drag... multiple times (a flight attendant, a harem girl, a cheerleader.) He displays overt male heterosexuality one second as Arnold Schwarzenegger, then a caricature of homosexuality in the next second as a swishy tailor measuring Aladdin for his Prince Ali outfit. Everything is overemphasized (the Hirschfield-inspired drawings, the hyperkinetic voice of Williams) and it's paced lightning fast. The overabundance of transformation flaunts the instability of identity in the viewer's face, hilariously critiquing theories of essentialism in the process. It is all just another costume for the Genie to put on and discard.

Tinker Belles (Griffin, 2000) p.147

While these examples tend to promote reading the Genie as a “gay male,” the character’s manic nature often spills beyond this simple category, becoming a truly “queer” figure.40 While casting Williams makes the Genie ostensibly male, “he” rapidly shifts into a number of caricatures of famous people (William F. Buckley, Groucho Marx, Ethel Merman, Jack Nicholson and Arsenio Hall amongst others) as well as crossdresses (a flight attendant, a harem girl, a cheerleader) and even becomes different species (a goat, a sheep, a bumblebee). He displays “mucho-macho” male heterosexuality one second as Arnold Schwarzenegger, then a caricature of homosexuality in the next second as a swishy tailor measuring Aladdin for his Prince Ali outfit. Everything is overemphasized (the Hirschfeld-inspired drawings, the hyperkinetic voice of Williams) and paced lightning fast. The overabundance of transformation flaunts the instability of identity in the viewer’s face, hilariously critiquing theories of essentialism in the process. It is all just another costume for the Genie to put on and discard.

Acknowledging the queerer nature of the Genie, though, it is much easier to appreciate him from a gay male perspective, particularly in his relationship with Aladdin. As mentioned, at one point the Genie transforms into a prissy gay tailor mincing as he advises snippily, —

Tinker Belles (Griffin, 2000) p.147-148

Acknowledging the “queerer” nature of the Genie, though, it is much easier to appreciate him (note gender identification) from a gay male viewpoint than, say, a lesbian viewpoint, particularly in his relationship with Aladdin. As mentioned, at one point the Genie transforms into a prissy gay tailor mincing as he advises snippily, “Those rags are much too ‘3rd-century’ — work with me here!” During one emotional high point in the narrative, the Genie tells Aladdin, “I’m getting kind of fond of you too, kid . . . not that I want to go shopping for curtains or anything.” The final tearful clinch at the end of the film is not between Aladdin and the princess Jasmine, but between Aladdin and the Genie. The “gay male” aspects of Aladdin go much farther than just the presence of the Genie, though. Deja’s admitted conception of the villainous Jafar as gay (making his relationship with his male parrot cohort Iago all the more intriguing) is almost in direct juxtaposition to the Genie. Both are tied directly to the hero Aladdin — one trying to help him, one trying to destroy him — and both are constantly concerned with how Aladdin looks.

Aladdin

Genie: "First, that fez and vest combo is much too third century. These patches, what are we trying to say, beggar? No. Let's work with me here." [Genie measures Aladdin up, ending up with the tape measure as a bow on the front of Aladdin's chest.]

During one emotional high point in the narrative, the Genie tells Aladdin, —

Aladdin

Genie: "Aww Al, I'm getting kind of fond of you, kid. Not that I want to pick out curtains or anything."

The final tearful clinch at the end of the film is not between Aladdin and the princess, Jasmine, but between Aladdin and the Genie.

The gay male aspects of Aladdin go much further than just the presence of the Genie, though. Animator Andreas Deja has admitted to drawing Jafar to be specifically a gay character, flipping the script on the older single woman praying on a young girl to the even more toxic image of an older gay man praying on a teenage boy. This was right around the time that the public at large became aware of NAMBLA, or the North American Man/Boy Love Association, [uncomfortably chuckling] so the timing was a bit problematic. The group actually used images from Aladdin in their messaging at the time, a bold move considering how litigious Disney can be. It's not shocking though, what with both the Genie and Jafar being obsessed with how Aladdin looks.

Fact Check (Todd in the Shadows, 2023)
  1. NAMBLA appropriated images from Disney's "Aladdin"

[sighs] This is just another claim which seems to come from nothing, or at least nothing I could find. Also it sounds like he's saying they got away with it? No. No, if fucking NAMBLA had stolen images from Disney, the Mouse would eat them alive.

For the record, the bulk of this Disney video (I'd say about two thirds of it) is sourced from Tinker Belles and Evil Queens by Sean Griffin, so this is another one where you can just easily compare Somerton's video to the book and see what details he's added. Almost everything in that segment about Aladdin's gay subtext is from the book, except that NAMBLA detail. I guess he could be sprinkling in tidbits from other sources, but I feel like I would have found it, that's why I don't believe this.

In fact, the studio itself worked endlessly to create a visually pleasing body and face for Aladdin, something that ended up creating the first animated crush for a lot of young gay boys out there. Disney's animators were accustomed to creating beautiful female figures (large eyes, small waists, pleasing soft curves). Yet, the animation Department also had a history of less success creating visually pleasing male characters, especially during Walt's tenure. Except for Prince Phillip, who doesn't love Prince Phillip? With Aladdin then, Disney's animators were faced with creating an objectified male body. Most critics agree that the various princes accompanying princesses seem "wooden" and are usually absent from the screen due to their lack of appeal. In fact, until Aladdin, only Peter Pan had been successful in presenting a male figure that came close to the appeal of Snow White or her counterparts. Well, maybe Robin Hood.

Tinker Belles (Griffin, 2000) p.148

In fact, the studio itself worked endlessly to create a visually pleasing body and face for Aladdin — a development that would obviously interest more gay male customers than lesbians. Having worked mainly on stories with female leads (Snow White, Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty, Ariel, Belle), Disney’s animators were accustomed to creating beautiful (read: fetishized) female figures (large eyes, small waists, pleasing soft curves). Yet, the animation department also had a history of less success in creating visually pleasing male characters. With Aladdin then, Disney’s animators were faced with creating an objectified male body.41 Most critics agree that the various princes accompanying Snow White, Cinderella and Sleeping Beauty seem “wooden” and are usually absent from the screen due to their lack of “appeal.”42 In fact, until Aladdin, only Pinocchio (1940) and Peter Pan (1953) had been successful in presenting male figures that came close to the “appeal” of Snow White or her counterparts. (It is interesting that while both are ostensibly male, their masculinity is problematized; the appeal of Pinocchio is more in his wooden puppet form than as the human boy he becomes, and the sexual ambiguity of Pan’s persona has been discussed by many.)43

With Ashman's involvement in Aladdin being cut short by his death, certain concepts he held for the project ended up dropped or modified by the studio. One major change was the elimination of the character of Aladdin's mother, for whom Ashman had written the song, "Proud of Your Boy," declaring her love for her son no matter how he lives his life. This ode to maternal love attempted to tell Aladdin not to be ashamed of himself or want to be someone else just to make people accept him. Its message isn't exactly subtle, so of course Disney cut it. Although Aladdin became an orphan in the final version of the film (would it be a Disney movie if there weren't orphans), his self-hatred and desire to become someone else still figure strongly into the narrative. He pretends to be Prince Ali in order to find a new life in which he is welcomed and adored by society instead of being called down to the lowest, a street rat. Aladdin must learn to accept himself for who he is before the narrative can reach its conventional happy ending.

Some producers of Aladdinwho? have claimed the queer coding in the film was entirely accidental, and in fact it's so subtle that a lot of people don't pick it up. But with Ashman's involvement writing the songs and helping to develop the story after being diagnosed with AIDS, knowing it might be his last project, I'm willing to bet that the coding is there on purpose.

Tinker Belles (Griffin, 2000) p.149

Ashman’s involvement in Aladdin was cut short by his death, and certain concepts he held for the project ended up dropped or modified by the studio. One major change was the elimination of the character of Aladdin’s mother, for whom Ashman had written a song, “Proud of Your Boy,” declaring her love for her son no matter how he lives his life.45 This song of love attempted to tell Aladdin not to be ashamed of himself or want to be someone other than himself. The song’s message to homosexuals obviously lies close to the surface. Although Aladdin became a loner in the final version of the film, his self-hatred and desire to become someone else still figures strongly in the narrative. He pretends to be “Prince Ali” in order to find a new life in which he is welcomed and adored by society instead of being labeled a “street rat.” Aladdin must learn to accept himself for who he is before the narrative can reach its conventional happy ending.

Tustin2121

Oh my God, James, no. First of all, the song was not written for Aladdin's mother to sing; Sean Griffin is wrong on this account. It was written for Aladdin to sing to his mother, expressing his low self-worth, of not being good enough, wishing that she could be proud of him. That's why it's called "Proud of Your Boy", Aladdin is singing it to/about his mother.

Second, James, Disney did not cut it because the song was "not subtle" w.r.t. homosexuality. (The fact that the song has been co-opted by the very straight Proud Boys attests to that fact.) In fact, Disney and Ashman's collaborators loved the song, but the writing process eventually eliminated the mother as a character, and thus the song of its narrative relevance. (It was effectively replaced by the One Jump reprise.)

In Disney's next animated feature, we wouldn't get a sea drag queen, an AIDS allegory, or a campy Genie. Instead, we got accidental gay parents and yet another queer coded villain. But before then, Disney accidentally produced an iconic entry into the queer cinematic canon with Hocus Pocus. No gay coding here, though I always hoped Thackery Binks was gay, just three campy witches that would go on to inspire generations upon generations of drag queens.

Now... to the lions.

Though we may not remember it, The Lion King was pretty controversial upon release. Disney's return to the main stage of animation in the early 90s with The Little Mermaid had pissed off a lot of feminists, who were aghast that Disney made a movie in which the female lead literally has her voice stolen from her.

To fix this, they made Belle a very proactive, intelligent character in Beauty and the Beast. Then they received a huge amount of backlash from Arab Americans after the release of Aladdin for some...

[On screen, lyrics to "Arabian Nights" are shown: "Where they cut off your ear / If they don't like your face / It's barbaric, but hey, it's home."]

...less than sensitive lyrical choices. And having an all-white voice cast.

Tinker Belles (Griffin, 2000) p.207

The studio attempted to respond to these complaints when working on the character Belle in Beauty and the Beast, taking care to show her intelligence and independence, although the narrative still focuses on which man she will marry.

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This is, roughly, a paraphrase of p.207-210 of Griffin, combined with general pop culture knowledge. Some additional context: Disney actually hired a woman screenwriter, Linda Woolverton, for Beauty and the Beast, (likely) in response to the feminist critiques of The Little Mermaid (143, 207, 210), rising from Ariel's dependence on male characters (the book does not mention this commonly-cited "pop culture" feminist critique regarding Ariel's voice.) Still, he notes,

"The variety of reaction from women when the film was released points out that many of the problems women found in The Little Mermaid were not solved. Consequently, while many gay men responded warmly to Beauty and the Beast, many lesbians might have had a hard time finding anything they could take from a film in which the female lead’s only duty is to choose whether she will marry an egotistical macho jerk or a male behemoth." (pp207-208)

As for the criticisms by Arab Americans, I didn't see a criticism of the voice cast mentioned in the book, and the lyric criticisms were part of a larger criticism of how Arab culture is portrayed in Aladdin (which is to say, in a very sterotypical, orientalist way that does not at all match reality.)

To fix this, they made sure to hire actors of color to voice characters in The Lion King, but, again, they ran into problems. Robert Guillaume was cast as Rafiki, who was immediately deemed an Uncle Tom character, while Whoopi Goldberg and Cheech Marin were cast as bumbling villains. Simba is White, Scar is White, Timon and Pumbaa are White. With the exception of James Earl Jones as Mufasa, most of the lead characters were voiced by White actors, something that did not please Disney's African American fans.

Tinker Belles (Griffin, 2000) p.210

The studio might have thought it would avoid the flack it received over The Little Mermaid and Aladdin when it began work on The Lion King, an all-animal cartoon. Similar in strategy to Pocahontas, a number of African Americans were hired as voice artists for this story about animals in the African veldt. Yet, the film elicited protests from many groups. Even if Ariel was a problematic character for feminists, at least she was the focus of the narrative. In The Lion King, lionesses (not to mention females from other species) are barely present. Many African Americans were also disturbed that the film actively refused to show any existence of human African civilization. The use of actor Robert Guillaume to create a mystic baboon with an Uncle Tom accent and Whoopi Goldberg and Cheech Marin as villainous (and boorish) hyenas who live in what constitutes the veldt’s ghetto did not help matters either.

[On screen: Screenshot of an obscure Medium article titled "Racism in The Lion King"]

But with all the talk of race, many people missed the queer messaging in the film.

With songs by Elton John and an ad campaign that included cartoon characters saying that the film was "to die for," a term that was just making its way out of the ballroom culture and into the mainstream, there seemed to be plenty for gay audiences to enjoy. Contrary to the complaints of non-visibility by women, Arab Americans, and African Americans, gay animals could be found quite easily in the film - gay male animals voiced by White actors. The adviser to the lion king is a fussy and pompous bird named Zazu, who seems to be modeled after queer actor Clifton Webb. Timon and Pumbaa, a meerkat and a warthog that Simba befriends after he is banished from his pride, can easily be read as a gay couple. They live happily together, reving in their marginalization from the rest of jungle society, and look disapprovingly at Simba's budding heterosexual romance. Voiced by out actor Nathan Lane, Timon has the personality of a New York drag queen: all patter and shtick, and ready to burst into a showtune at the drop of a hat, while Pumbaa depends on Timon constantly.

Tinker Belles (Griffin, 2000) p.211

With the songs of Elton John and an ad campaign that included cartoon characters saying that the film was “to die for” or that they would “put on a grass skirt and do the hula” to get customers into the theatre, there seemed to be plenty for gay audiences to enjoy. Contrary to the complaints of nonvisibility by women and African Americans, “gay” animals could be found quite easily in the film — gay male animals voiced by white actors. The advisor to the lion king is a fussy and pompous bird named Zazu, who seems to be modeled after actor Clifton Webb. Timon and Pumbaa, a meerkat and a warthog that the lion cub protagonist Simba befriends after he is banished from his tribe, can be easily read as a gay male couple. They live happily together, reveling in their marginalization from the rest of jungle society, and look askance at Simba’s budding heterosexual romance with a lioness. Voiced by Nathan Lane, who has played a number of gay male roles on stage and screen, Timon has the personality of a New York show queen: all patter and schtick, and ready to burst into a showtune at the drop of a hat. Pumbaa, the slower-witted of the pair, depends on Timon constantly, and the film prominently features his behind. Timon and Pumbaa would eventually star in their own animated TV series within the “Disney Afternoon,” where they would actually become even more gay-tinged. As Gael Sweeney discovered in her analysis of the program, the pair often function in episodes as a married couple and act as parents to young children in a number of storylines. Also, the two seem to enjoy dressing up in various types of drag throughout the run of the series.76

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For the record, Nathan Lane had not publicly come out at the time of The Lion King's release; he came out in 1999 after the murder of Matthew Shepard.

The most obvious queer figure in the film though, of course, is the villain, Scar, voiced by Jeremy Irons, who portrays a physically weak scoundrel who makes up for his lack of sheer strength with catty remarks and insidious plotting. The character swishes about and shows disdain at the concept of a heterosexual family as he plots to take the throne for himself. When Scar refers to Simba as a "hairball," Mufasa warns, —

Tinker Belles (Griffin, 2000) p.211

The most obvious gay figure in the film is the villainous lion Scar, voiced by Jeremy Irons, who archly portrays a physically weak male who makes up for his lack of sheer strength with catty remarks and invidious plotting. Animated by Deja, the character fairly swishes, disdaining the concept of the heterosexual family in his attempt to usurp the throne for himself. When Scar refers to the cub prince Simba as a “hairball,” Mufasa (Simba’s father and king) warns “That ‘hairball’ is my son and your future king.” Scar dons a mockingly prissy graciouness as he responds snidely, “Oh! I shall practice my curtsy!” Later, when Simba laughs and tells Scar, “You’re so weird,” the bored villain stares him straight in the eye and intones, “You have no idea . . .”

The Lion King

Mufasa: "That hairball is my son and your future king."

Scar: "Oh, I shall practice my curtsy!"

Later, when Simba laughs and tells Scar,

The Lion King

Simba: "You're so weird."

Scar: "You have no idea."

While Disney's villains have routinely veered toward camp, the signifiers that seem to ally Scar with homosexuality have an added dose of menace. After the viewer enjoys his dry gay wit in the opening sections of the film, he sings a musical number that becomes an animated version of the Nurmberg rallies, with Scar at the podium as hyena henchmen goosestep in perfect cadence before him. The color scheme turns monochromatic during this section, furthering the similarities to the Leni Riefenstahl Nazi propaganda of The Triumph of the Will. Unlike other Disney villains, Scar actually kills someone (even the evil Queen in Snow White didn't manage to do that.) His reign over the kingdom seems to directly cause drought, pestilence and the general destruction of the ecosystem. It is only with the restoration of Simba to the throne that the land comes back to life, in a dissolve that makes the change seem miraculously immediate.

Tinker Belles (Griffin, 2000) p.211-212

While Disney’s villains have routinely veered towards camp (Captain Hook, Cruella de Vil, Ursula, Jafar), the signifiers that seem to ally Scar with homosexuality become disturbing. After the viewer enjoys his dry gay wit in the opening sections of the film, the fey lion sings a musical solo that becomes an animated version of the Nuremberg rallies, with Scar at the podium as hyena henchmen goosestep in perfect cadence before him. The color scheme turns monochromatic during this section, furthering the similarities to the Nuremberg documentary The Triumph of the Will (1936). Unlike the other villains, Scar actually kills someone (not even the evil Queen in Disney’s Snow White [1937] did that), when he throws Mufasa from a cliff into a stampede of wildebeests. His reign over the kingdom seems to directly cause drought, pestilence and the general destruction of the ecosystem. It is only with the restoration of Simba to the throne that the land comes back to life, in a dissolve that makes the change seem miraculously immediate.

Scar's unforgivable sin seems to be his refusal to support the heterosexual patriarchy that Simba and his father represent. This social system is canonized during the film's opening number, "The Circle of Life." While Scar actively defies the social order celebrated in this number, the other gay figures help the young straight lion and are not seen as monsters mainly because they view him as the rightful ruler of the land. Zazu, Timon and Pumbaa all aid Simba in his quest to reestablish his claim to the throne, endorsing his divine right.

This would fit directly into how establishment liberals in corporate America like the queers to behave. "Fit into the already established social roles and everything will be okay." Pete Buttigeeg got to run for president because he was essentially a straight man with a husband (suburban home, two dogs, no children yet, but surely they'll be on their way by 2024), fitting into exactly what heteronormative society expects.

But Scar doesn't fit that mold, refuses to fit into that mold, and so he's looked down upon by the other lions, basically excommunicated from the pride. And since he doesn't fit the mold, he's portrayed as a Nazi, Hitler himself in fact, with all the mincing mannerisms that Hitler has been mocked for over the years. While The Lion King became a massive hit, Disney had to add gay men to the list of people unhappy with their product

Tinker Belles (Griffin, 2000) p.212

Scar’s unforgivable sin seems to be his refusal to support the heterosexual patriarchy that Simba and his father represent. This social system is canonized during the film’s opening number, “The Circle of Life,” which was used in its entirety as a theatrical trailer for the film — drawing in audiences through a ritual performance of heterosexual male privilege. While Scar actively defies the social order celebrated in this number, the other gay figures help the young “straight” lion and are not seen as monsters mainly because they view him as the rightful ruler of the land. Zazu, Timon and Pumbaa all aide Simba in his quest to reestablish his claim to the throne, endorsing his “divine right.” This would fit directly into how the corporations that target “the gay consumer” would like to define homosexual individuals as a market but not as a political social group.77 By buying into the society, “the gay consumer” effectively supports the hegemonic order, much as Simba’s gay friends aid his return to power. The power of the film’s endorsement of heterosexual patriarchy on audience members was made clear when the Timon and Pumbaa TV series began airing. Since Simba did not appear in the show, Timon and Pumbaa’s “gayness” became all the more obvious and was not used to endorse the “natural order” of heterosexual dominance. Some Internet fans of the original film voiced outrage because the series seemed to be reveling in gay camp, countering the philosophies they found valuable in The Lion King.78

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Pete Buttigieg does indeed have children now; he and his husband adopted newborn fraternal twins in 2021. But like, if you have an issue with him, then target his policies or public statements, not his lifestyle?

Tustin2121

No, see, it's the hip thing to do to slag off Pete Buttigieg just because he's a "straight gay" and "panders to the middle". You know, everything that actually makes him even remotely electable in this right-wing capitalist hellhole we call "America". James is just band-wagoning.

John E. Harris wrote about his feelings on Scar's betrayal for the Christopher Street periodical:

"On a deep level the lion King[sic: The Lion King] dramatizes the danger of 'single affected males' to any society... implying that they have the power to destroy an entire civilization. This is of course the message that Pat Robertson and Pat Buchanan routinely sign-off on in order to scapegoat homosexuals for such heterosexual problems as abortion, single mothers, and the high divorce rate."

Tinker Belles (Griffin, 2000) p.212-213

Not all homosexual individuals willingly bought into the messages that The Lion King seemed to be sending. While some were entertained by Timon and Pumbaa, and identified with the “father issues” that Simba had to work through after being cast out by his community, others noticed the “lasting impression” of Scar (to coin a phrase). Writing for the gay periodical Christopher Street, John E. Harris noted how:

On a deep level, The Lion King dramatizes the danger of single “affected” males to any society, implying that they have the power to destroy an entire civilization. This is, of course, the message that Pat Robertson and Pat Buchanan routinely sign-off on in order to scapegoat homosexuals for such heterosexual problems as abortion, single mothers, and the high divorce rate.79

Harris also noted in his review the possible racist implications of the hyenas, an aspect that Todd Hayward analyzed in great deal[sic: detail] for an article in the West Hollywood gay 'zine Planet Homo. Unlike the film, which conceives of race, gender and sexuality as mutually exclusive concepts, Hayward links the negative racial and gender connotations with issues of sexuality, writing:

"Disney's moral hierarchy has implications which are damaging to all of us who lie outside the 'mainstream.'"

Hayward's analysis explicitly displays how queer activism and... theory counters concepts of the "gay consumer" with the recognition that not all homosexuals are white upscale men with the money or inclination to support Disney's product.

Tinker Belles (Griffin, 2000) p.213

Harris also noted in his review the possible racist implications of the hyenas, an aspect that Todd Hayward analyzed in great detail for an article in the West Hollywood gay ’zine Planet Homo. Unlike the film, which conceives of race, gender and sexuality as mutually exclusive concepts, Hayward links the negative racial and gender connotations with issues of sexuality: “Disney’s moral hierarchy has implications which are damaging for all of us who lie outside the ‘mainstream.’”80 Hayward’s analysis explicitly displays how “queer” activism and theory counters concepts of “the gay consumer” with the recognition that not all homosexuals are white upscale men with the money or the inclination to support Disney’s product.

"Readers may be asking themselves, 'But if you substitute Disney’s simplicity with relativity, and if you make good characters physically indistinguishable from bad characters, or if you do away with all of The Lion King’s polarizations of good and evil, then everyone in the theatre has to come to his or her own conclusions about the film’s content.' To objections of this nature, I respond with a resounding, 'Good!' Films that set up neat systems of good and evil — do’s and don’ts — are part of the pervasive simplemindedness that posits heterosexuality and queerdom as irreconcilable opposites which cannot co-exist respectfully."

Tinker Belles (Griffin, 2000) p.213

Readers may be asking themselves, “But if you substitute Disney’s simplicity with relativity, and if you make good characters physically indistinguishable from bad characters, or if you do away with all The Lion King’s polarizations of good and evil, then everyone in the theatre has to come to his or her own conclusions about the film’s content.” To objections of this nature, I respond with a resounding, “Good!” Films that set up neat systems of good and evil — do’s and don’ts — are part of the pervasive simplemindedness that posits heterosexuality and queerdom as irreconcilable opposites which cannot co-exist respectfully.81

Disney continued their trend of coding villains queer with the release of 1996's Pocahontas, a film where every Native male is portrayed as traditionally masculine, two-spirit people do not exist, and the villain is a flouncy rotund man who wears pink velvet, little bows in his hair, and has a devoted male companion.

On TV, ABC, a network owned by Disney, used the coming out episode of Ellen as a way to spike viewership during the May sweeps period. To heighten ratings during this period, the network extended Diane Sawyer's interview with Ellen on PrimeTime Live over two nights. During the episode, Disney advertised many of its big summer movies, as well as promoted other ABC shows. Furthermore, within the show itself, Disney found a way to do some product placement. When Ellen's therapist asks her what she's going to do now that she's come out as a lesbian, Ellen parodies Disney's famous ad campaign and announces, —

Tinker Belles (Griffin, 2000) p.202

Disney’s relationship with the gay community often mirrors this pattern. Deja, in his studio-sanctioned interviews, makes certain to assert that the work of the homoerotic artist Tom of Finland had no influence on his drawing of Beauty and the Beast’s beefy Gaston.48 In the interviews with Deja conducted just before the release of Aladdin, he is questioned about some of the jokes in the film, such as the “Genie-as-prissy-tailor” scene. When told that such humor could easily be read as stereotypical and insensitive towards gays, Deja instead “gives an enthusiastic thumbs-up as a reply.”49 This Disney-positive attitude is shared by Schumacher in his interview when the reporter for The Advocate questions him on “defecting to the enemy camp” by hiring renowned homophobe Mel Gibson as a voice for Pocahontas.50 During a season when ABC was running low in the ratings, the Disney-owned network used the coming-out episode of Ellen as a way to spike viewership during the May sweeps period. To heighten ratings during this period, the network extended Diane Sawyer’s interview with Ellen DeGeneres on PrimeTime Live over two nights. During the episode, Disney advertised many of its big summer movies, as well as promoted other ABC shows. Furthermore, within the show itself, Disney found a way to do some “product placement.” When Ellen Morgan’s therapist (played by Oprah Winfrey) asks her what she’s going to do now that she’s come out as a lesbian, Ellen parodies Disney’s famous ad campaign and announces “I’m going to Disneyland!” Yet, the network refused to allow the Human Rights Campaign (HRC), a homosexual rights organization, to buy time for a public service advertisement during the episode. ABC informed the HRC that the network held “a policy against issue ads.”51 Since ABC has had no trouble in the past airing ads about solving illiteracy, putting “Children First” or curing illegal drug use, this statement seems disingenuous. While ABC and Disney trumpeted the “issue” of Ellen Morgan’s lesbianism to boost ratings and profits, political statements were not welcome. Further, the network seemed to be antagonistic towards anyone else making a profit off lesbianism with Ellen, since the network not only turned down an ad by the HRC but also one by Olivia Cruises, a vacation company aimed at lesbians. Both organizations eventually bought ad time with local affiliates in certain cities (Atlanta, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Washington, Phoenix, Detroit), but only viewers in these areas saw these TV spots.

The Puppy Episode, Ellen (1997)

Ellen: "I'm going to Disneyland!" [Raucous audience laughter]

Yet, the network refused to allow the Human Rights Campaign, an LGBT rights organization, to buy time for a public service advertisement during the episode. When Ellen's ratings dropped after coming out, ABC swiftly canceled the show.

During the 1990s, Disney's parks also tried profiting from their LGBT fans by creating Gay Night, a one-night-a-year event at the parks where LGBT folks would be the main guest. It was a big hit, and threatened boycotts against the company never seemed to materialize. Initially, the revenue was all to be donated to the Aid for AIDS Foundation, but by 1995, donations to the charity had dried up. Disney was keeping all of the profits for themselves.

Fact Check (Todd in the Shadows, 2023)
  1. Disney did a gay charity event and stole the profits.

Okay, this is a thing that happened, but it wasn't Disney. Disney Gay Days was an informal, unsanctioned event organized by an outside travel agency. They had no official connections to the actual park. It was discovered that the agency wasn't giving the profits to charity like they promised, and after that they went out of business. This had nothing to do with the actual Disney corporation.

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The history of Gay Nights are detailed in Griffin's book as well.

"In the 1990s, the Odyssey Tours travel agency began renting out the park one night a year (usually during the early winter, traditionally a slow period for the park) to hold “Gay Nights” at the park. Although never specifically advertised with such a phrase, the flyers and print ads announced that portions of the proceeds would go to the Aid for AIDS charity, and, judging by the crowds these nights attracted, most people 'got the hint.' (p191)

"In 1995, the lesbian and gay circles of Southern California by and large turned away from the annual 'Gay Night' at Disneyland. While not a systemized boycott, word spread throughout the area that Odyssey Tours, who organized the event, was making only token donations of the proceeds to the Aid for AIDS charity — even though the publicity prominently described itself as a charity event. Conceiving of the 'Gay Night' as a 'con job' on lesbian and gay customers, attendance dropped precipitously." (p203)

There were various boycots and other protests by Christian fundamentalists and the like from the mid 1990s onward, but none of them had to do with Gay Nights.

In 1997, Disney committed their first act of straight-washing with the release of Hercules. Based very loosely on the Greek myth of Heracles, the film overtly ignored the hero's well-known bisexuality (as well as his uxoricidal mood swings) and once again codes the villain gay, this time making Hades, the Lord of the Underworld (one of the few Olympian gods not to have taken a male lover) into yet another mincing older man. Like Scar, with intentions of usurping the throne of power from his heteronormative brother.

Hades's only relationship with a woman in the film is with Herc's love interest Meg, for whom he fills the role of Stanford Blatch to her Cary Bradshaw.

Tustin2121

Holy $10 word Batman! "uxoricide: a man who murders his wife"

Referring to Heracles getting turned mad by Hera and killing his first wife Megara and their two kids. And, actually, apparently it's iffy if Megara actually was killed, depending on who's telling the story, so it would have been more correct for James to say "infanticidal" or "filicidal".

Hercules

Meg: "This one is different, he's honest and- and he's sweet--"

Hades: "Please..."

Meg: "He would never do anything to hurt me!

Hades: "He's a guy!"

All of the other overtly gay sections of Greek myth and the Heracles myth itself are completely ignored, of course (as it is with almost all incarnations of the hero's stories in modern media). Not that anyone expected anything different from Disney. Queer audiences never really expected anything from the Mouse at this point. Even the interesting coding inserted by Howard Ashman had dried up since his death.

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He skipped The Hunchback of Notre Dame smh

So it was a pleasant surprise when in 1998, Mulan hit theaters. These lyrics from the song "Reflection" say it all:

Look at me I will never pass for a perfect bride, or a perfect daughter Can it be I'm not meant to play this part? Now I see That if I were truly to be myself, I would break my family's heart   Who is that girl I see? Staring straight back at me Why is my reflection someone I don't know...   Somehow I cannot hide Who I am though I've tried When will my reflection show Who I am inside
(Tom, 2018) ¶ 2

But nearly 20 years later, my perspective shifted: At a friend’s birthday party in early 2017, I watched Disney’s "Mulan" for the first time as a queer, nonbinary trans adult. In the darkened living room, I found myself holding back a sudden swell of tears as I listened to the lyrics of Mulan’s iconic solo, "Reflection":

Look at me

I will never pass for a perfect bride, or a perfect daughter

Can it be I’m not meant to play this part?

Now I see

That if I were truly to be myself, I would break my family’s heart.

Disney's Mulan is, however unintentionally, a queer narrative that explores both gender identity and sexual orientation. It is not, as it is often simplistically described, a story about a disempowered woman who becomes empowered by masculinity. It is a story about a young person who doesn't fit the rigid constructs of womanhood or manhood, and who must instead carve her own path.

(Tom, 2018) ¶ 4

Disney’s "Mulan" is, however unintentionally, a queer narrative that explores both gender identity and sexual orientation. It is not, as it is often simplistically described, a story about a disempowered woman who becomes empowered by masculinity. It is a story about a young person who doesn’t fit the rigid constructs of womanhood or manhood, and who must instead carve her own path.

Mulan's gender journey over the course of the movie feels very familiar to many trans and nonbinary people. First, in "Honor to Us All," the village women attempt to sculpt Mulan into an ideal woman - more specifically, an ideal wife. Mulan fails the test of womanhood when her meeting with the Matchmaker goes horribly awry. As Mulan acknowledges this failure in "Reflection," she poses a question that most trans people know intimately: "When will my reflection show who I am inside?"

(Tom, 2018) ¶ 5

Mulan’s gender journey over the course of the movie feels very familiar to me as a nonbinary trans person. First, in "Honor to Us All," the village women attempt to sculpt Mulan into an ideal woman — and more specifically, an ideal wife. It surprises some of my friends that this has always been my favorite scene in the movie, and that as a child, I longed to dress as Mulan in full bridal garb for Halloween. But this actually fits my experience navigating gender: I was a child who was excellent at embodying girlhood and wanted badly to become a beautiful, graceful, feminine woman… but it just wasn’t in the cards for me. Mulan, too, fails the test of womanhood when her meeting with the Matchmaker goes horribly awry. As Mulan acknowledges this failure in "Reflection," she poses a question that most trans people know intimately: "When will my reflection show who I am inside?" And what exactly would that reflection be? If Mulan isn’t a woman, then who (or what) is she?

Many trans men in particular feel a kinship with Mulan, as the character prepares to convince everyone they're a man - practicing their swagger, affecting their voice to a lower register, and scrambling to settle on a boy name. In "I'll Make a Man Out of You," Mulan-as-Ping progressively works their way toward achieving manhood, which is defined by catching fish, carrying heavy things, and, of course... wielding a big stick. They later fail the test of manhood when they, or she, is revealed as a woman - or, rather, as someone who is not a man. Ultimately, Mulan is able to defeat the bad guys by playing on their misperception of her gender. Through a queer lens, the message of Disney's Mulan is something many people learned as they come into their trans or non-binary identity: By rejecting society's limited ideals of womanhood and manhood, you can become your more authentic self.

(Tom, 2018) ¶ 6

When I was at Smith College and coming into my own gender revolution, I thought, "I’m pretty sure I’m not a cis woman, so maybe I’m a trans man." I started binding my chest and wearing Oxford collar shirts and sweater vests (it was New England, so I thought I looked cool). I kept a secret Tumblr blog under a male alter-ego named Levitt, for Joseph Gordon-Levitt — which is very embarrassing to admit now. At that birthday party, I saw this version of myself in Mulan, as she prepares to convince everyone she’s a man — practicing her swagger, affecting her voice to a lower register, and scrambling to settle on a "boy name." In "I’ll Make A Man Out of You," Mulan-as-Ping progressively works her way toward achieving manhood, which is defined by catching fish, carrying heavy things, and, of course, wielding a big stick. She later fails the test of manhood when she is revealed as a woman — or, rather, as someone who is not a man. Ultimately, Mulan is able to defeat the bad guys by playing on their misperceptions of her gender, and — in an unfortunately transmisogynistic scene — getting her friends to transgress gender, as well. Through a queer lens, the message of Disney’s "Mulan" is something I learned as I came into my nonbinary identity: By rejecting society’s limited ideals of "womanhood" and "manhood," you can become your most authentic self.

Then there's Li Shang, the handsome young general who falls for both Ping and Mulan, and who has been meme-ified as a bisexual icon. And so in the upcoming live action adaptation of Mulan the songs have been removed, so no "Reflection" or "I'll Make a Man Out of You," and Li Shang has been removed entirely. Wouldn't want anyone queerin' up a possible billion dollar hit, now would we?

(Tom, 2018) ¶ 7-8

Then there’s Li Shang, the handsome young general who falls for both Ping and Mulan, and who has been meme-ified as a bisexual icon. Between the women in the rice paddy blushing and giggling as Mulan-as-Ping passes by, and Ping and Shang’s awkward flirtations, even the sexuality and romance in Disney’s "Mulan" is queer.

Because of all this, and because I’ve come to read Disney’s "Mulan" as a queer Asian American narrative, I feel apprehensive about the upcoming live action adaptation. With reports of major changes to the original — including a new villain, a new love interest, and no songs at all — it seems like the live action movie will be nothing less than a total departure from its animated original. This is a blow to anybody who loves the 1998 version, but especially to queer Asian Americans. Without Shang or the original soundtrack, there will likely be no bisexual love story or genderqueer introspection. Considering that 2015’s "Cinderella" and 2017’s "Beauty and the Beast," the only other live action Disney princess adaptations that have been released so far, both stay extremely faithful to the characters, songs, and even the shots of the animated originals, it feels particularly othering that Mulan — one of the only Disney "princesses" of color — is getting an extreme makeover.

Disney went into a prolonged slump with the birth of the new millennium. Only the Pirates of the Caribbean franchise seemed to be keeping the studio afloat. And even then, when the first film was in production, it was giving executives heart problems. The dailies coming in of Johnny Depp playing Jack Sparrow as at least questioningly queer put Michael Eisner under so much stress he literally had a heart attack.

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There is no record of Michael Eisner having a heart attack during the production of Pirates of the Caribbean. He did have heart surgery in 1994,, around the time Wells died and Katzenberg left the company, but that was well before Pirates.

In an interview after the film's release, Depp said,

"It trickled back to me that Michael Eisner went on some sort of bent about how 'Goddammit, Johnny Depp's ruining the film! What is that thing? Is it drunk, is it gay?'

'What the f**k are you doing?' he'd asked. When they asked me if it- he was gay, I said: 'Didn't you know all my characters are gay?' I really expected to be fired but I wasn't for some reason."

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This quote comes from the AFI Film Festival on November 8, 2015, in a moderated conversation between Johnny Depp and Black Pearl's director Scott Cooper.

There's an audio recording of the interview, so I've transcribed the relevant section myself, in more exact detail. (around the 39 minute mark)

"It trickled back to me that Michael Eisner went on some sort of bent about how "Goddammit, Johnny Depp's ruining the film! What is it? What is that thing? What, is it drunk? Is it gay?" And so I fully expected to be fired, and then I got a call from one of the upper echelon at Disney, who was courageous enough to ask me, "What the fuck are you doing?" And you know, again, the [unintelligible] words came up, "Is it drunk? Is it gay?" And all I could say was, 'cause it was just-- I was set up for a great line, so "Is it gay?" and I said "Didn't you know all my characters are gay?" I was really expecting to be fired, but they wouldn't for some reason. They were actually gonna subtitle my character. (Really? That's amazing!) Yeah, they couldn't understand Captain Jack."

The closest match to James' quote is this article from the Independent, though he skips over the "upper echelon" part and attributes "What the fuck are you doing?" to Eisner.

“It trickled back to me that [former CEO] Michael Eisner went on some sort of bent about how ‘Goddammit, Johnny Depp’s ruining the film! What is that thing? It is drunk, is it gay?’” he said, before recalling a meeting with “the upper echelon”.

“What the f**k are you doing?” he was asked. “When they asked if it was gay, I said: ‘Didn’t you know all my characters are gay?’ I really expected to be fired but I wasn’t for some reason. They were actually gonna put subtitles under my character, they couldn’t understand Captain Jack.”

The film and its sequels went on to be big hits for the studio... for the most part. The new blood of 1980s Disney had all left the company by the time the Pirates sequels started coming out. Jeffrey Katzenberg left the company to start DreamWorks with Steven Spielberg and David Geffen, Michael Eisner stepped down in a swirl of controversy, and Frank Wells died in a helicopter crash. In 2005, Bob Iger took over the position of CEO at Disney.

Epilogue: A New Era?

The company was under new management for the first time in twenty years. Iger was well known in political circles as a progressive on social issues and had spearheaded multiple initiatives while working under Michael Eisner to increase the rights of LGBT employees at Disney, and to empower LGBT Disney fans.

Under his stewardship Disney switched from the once-a-year Gay Night at Disney parks to the full Gay Days event, rebranding the occasion into a more family-friendly affair with the intention of helping bring LGBT families into the mainstream.

He was vocally opposed to George W. Bush's crusade to ban gay marriage and donated to the Obama for President campaign in 2008 under the caveat that Obama not defend the Defense of Marriage Act or "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" if he were to make it into office. Obama agreed, leading to both homophobic laws being overturned.

Queer Disney stans were excited for Iger's takeover of the company. Having such a vocal supporter of LGBT rights as the head of a company like Disney could only mean good things. When Iger went on a spending spree buying up properties such as Marvel and Star Wars, gay fans got excited to see if queer characters would make their way into those franchises. As we know from the last video, they did not. [record scratch]

Plagiarism Video (Hbombergy, 2023)

Now, obviously Iger couldn't rebrand something Disney wasn't doing and had no control over. Gay Days is actually a completely separate event which is also unofficial and unsanctioned by Disney. Also it started before Gay Night and 15 years before Iger became CEO. It's kind of impressive how wrong this was. He's giving fucking Disney credit for the actions of independent queer people. It really downplays the work that people put into organizing stuff like Gay Days. It's super disappointing, honestly. The first official Disney pride night happened this year [2023], three years after he made this video. That's how far off the mark he was on this.

Fact Check (Todd in the Shadows, 2023)
  1. Disney CEO Bob Iger has a strong pro-gay rights record

Yeah I couldn't find any of that. If Iger ever did anything for gay Disney employees, I didn't find it. If Iger ever did anything for gay Disney fans, I didn't find it. Literally the only connection I could find between Iger and LGBT issues was that he was head of ABC when Ellen DeGeneres came out, which was under the Disney umbrella but not really Disney, you know? Any initiatives for gay Disney employees during the Eisner era happened before Iger ascended to the Disney corporation proper, so I don't think he was involved.

And I know Iger didn't redesign Gay Night into Disney Gay Days because, again, Gay Days was never a Disney sanctioned event. Disney didn't do a Pride event in America until this year, and for the record, it was a gay night.

And then [sighs] the stuff about opposing Bush's gay marriage ban, like... if a major executive at a family oriented American icon brand like Disney took a bold stance against the president on this very controversial issue, you'd think there'd be some coverage. But it just doesn't come up anywhere, not in searches, not in his memoir, not in 2017 when he was briefly floating a presidential run, he talked about climate change, gun violence, immigration, nothing about gay rights. If he had ever taken a stance that brave and ahead of the curve while running as a Democrat, it's political malpractice not to bring that up every chance you get. He has made some pro-gay rights statements more recently, but that was after he left the company and well after Somerton's video came out.

And okay, all that stuff about Obama. Uh, you can see people's donations, so I went to opensecrets.org, which does have a listing for all of Iger's donations. Uh, it doesn't list any donations to Obama in '08, and uh, none of the committees Iger donated to gave to Obama either, I think because Obama was not accepting any corporate PAC money that election.

Iger has been a benign CEO as far as LGBT representation goes. While he hasn't allowed major characters to come out as LGBT, putting his foot down when Taiko Watiti planned for Valkyrie to be a lesbian in Thor: Ragnarok, he has allowed smaller queer characters to appear, such as the lodge owners in Frozen, LeFou in the Beauty and the Beast remake, Specter in Onward, and a quick lesbian kiss in Star Wars: Episode IX.

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And one minor bonus claim: on the other hand, Iger wouldn't let Valkyrie be gay in Thor: Ragnarok.

Okay, fact check, according to Rolling Stone they did shoot a scene confirming that Valkyrie was gay, but it was cut for pacing reasons. That's the official story, at least. You don't have to believe it, but there's no actual reporting saying that it was cut for any other reason or that Iger was the one that made that call. That's just speculation and I don't think you should present it as fact.

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Also, Valkyrie is bisexual, as is her actor, Tessa Thompson.

While there was a lot of speculation that Oaken was gay because when he shouts out his family in the sauna you see a man and no wife, I don't believe there has been any official acknowledgement of this the way there was for the other small inclusions of queer characters mentioned in that section

One could argue that he could have been vetoing all LGBT representation like Disney CEOs before him, that he could be actively opposing us... but I say that's a pretty pathetically low bar.

Disney is the preeminent media provider right now, with Pixar, Star Wars, Marvel, Fox, and their own original properties, it could be argued that they're growing a media monopoly. One I've contributed to myself. I was one of the people arguing for Disney to buy up Fox so that we could finally get some good X-Men and Fantastic 4 movies that weren't Logan. Also that they buy up Sony Pictures so that Spider-Man can stay in the MCU.

But now that Disney does own Fox, I have to wonder, when they make their X-Men movie, will Iceman be straight again? He came out of the closet in the comics a few years ago with a really touching storyline. Will Disney do away with that for a liveaction Iceman? Or will they simply... keep him on the bench so they don't have to deal with it at all?

Now that Disney owns The Rocky Horror Picture Show, what will become of that? Will it continue to run as a midnight movie event, or will Disney pull the film prints that are in circulation? They're certainly controlling over their copyrighted content, so I can imagine they wouldn't be too pleased with theaters showing the film without their say so.

An odd ray of hope in Disney, then, is Kevin Feige, the mastermind behind the MCU. He's threatened to quit before, not over pay raises, but over control of characters. Disney gave in to his demands, and only once has stepped into to override his decision, that being Valkyrie's queerness. Even with their attempted straight-washing, the coding is still... so obvious it can barely be called coding.

His contract is once again coming up for renewal, and it looks like Valkyrie will indeed be looking for her queen in Thor: Love and Thunder. A lesbian lead character in a potentially billion dollar movie will make Disney execs quake in their Gucci loafers, but worrying over that might be worth keeping the Golden Goose that is Kevin Feige.

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As far as I can tell, Kevin Feige didn't have anything to do with the Valkyrie thing, again, that was just cut for pacing. Also, again, she's bisexual, this is a pretty well known fact.

The Young Avengers featuring Marvel's premier gay couple, Wiccan and Hulkling, is reportedly in development, either as a Disney Plus show or as a feature film. Hulkling being the king of space and Wiccan being the center point for all existence in the Marvel universe makes them pretty much the ultimate superhero power couple.

And Brie Larsson has been very blunt in her opinion the Captain Marvel should have a girlfriend in her sequel, while Tom Holland will use any opportunity to let reporters know that he thinks his Spider-Man needs a boyfriend.

So is it possible for Disney, via Marvel Studios, to become the main source for LGBT representation in Hollywood, all because of one producer they're terrified to lose? It's a distinct possibility.

Though the gay representation in Avengers: Endgame was much maligned by LGBT audiences, it was an interesting experiment. The scene is small and easily removable, but Marvel refused to cut it for the film's release in countries like China, Russia, and... places in the Middle East, calling the bluff of those countries' censorship guidelines. And since theater owners didn't want to lose out on a Marvel movie, the scene stayed in. Effectively, a positive test run to see if Feige and Marvel could indeed get away with having queer characters in Marvel movies, even in countries where homosexuality may be punishable by death.

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I found no evidence that Marvel "refused to cut" the scene in other countries. One article about Russia claims that the scene was dubbed in a way that hid the romantic implications of the dialogue Also, apparently Disney refused to screen the English version of the film (with subtitles) in Russia for some reason. I couldn't find anything about China or "places in the Middle East" that supports or refutes James' argument.

But Marvel is the outlier at Disney. No producer at Disney has the power and influence that Kevin Feige does, and even he hasn't managed to have an out queer main character in a film yet, though we're apparently getting one with The Eternals, if that ever gets released.

The House of Mouse continues, though, to profit from its LGBT fan base while starving us for representation, so that we'll be satisfied by the scraps they see fit to toss us. A queer ascended extra, or a blink-and-you miss-it moment does not make up for everything Disney has done.

It's a well-known fact among industry professionals that Mulan was altered so drastically from its original animated form specifically to appeal to the Chinese box office, which is why any hint at bi or trans representation has been removed from the film, even the coding, at least according to the people I know who have seen the movie.who And their Jungle Cruise movie has an implied gay character that the test audiences found so offensive that the movie saw massive delays in order to re-shoot giant sections of the film.

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Jungle Cruise did have reshoots (in spring 2019), and people did complain a lot about the initial reporting and trailers in regards to the gay character (for being played by a straight man, being described as "camp", and reports that the word "gay" wouldn't actually be used), but "they reshot the film because they made an offensive gay stereotypes" seems to just be a Twitter rumor/speculation based on his lack of dialogue in the first trailer that got spread as fact. The movie was delayed (in October 2018, the release was pushed back from October 2019 to July 2020, and then later pushed back another year because of COVID), but there's no indication of why.

At the Disney parks, it's not uncommon to see rainbow-laced Disney shirts, hats, Mickey ears, pins, bracelets, and notebooks, all kinds of merchandise. They are more than willing to sell us all sorts of stuff, except a ticket to a movie with actual representation.

They will happily take our money and slyly wink when we ask if Elsa is a lesbian. They'll sell us a movie ticket and shrug "Who knows?" when we ask if Poe and Finn will kiss. They'll sign you up for a year's membership to Disney Plus, and then move Love, Victor to Hulu.

Disney is a company like any other: they go where the profits are, and they are drawn to those profits like a shark to blood. The thing is, the LGBT community has been feeding them with no demand for something in return.

They queerbait Stucky, Finnpoe, and Elsa. We still give them our money.

They make a huge deal out of an "exclusively gay moment," just to give us two seconds of two men dancing. And we still give them our money.

They remove even the gay coding from their remakes. And we still give them our money.

Is Disney the worst company in the world? No, of course not, it's not like they're fracking when people leave the parks.

I've loved Disney for as long as I can remember. The first movie I saw in theaters was Aladdin. My first crushes were Aladdin and Hercules. I knew for sure that I was 100% gay because I saw Tarzan swinging around half naked and thought, "yep, that's what I want."

Disney isn't Chick-fil-A or Hobby Lobby, it's not a hateful company. And it's not a company most people can easily drop from their lives, Disney is a part of the culture now. Hell, they've created a big chunk of the culture that we live in.

So I'm not saying you need to stop seeing Disney movies, but I do think we need to send Disney a very strong message. Either give us representation or don't. Stop the baiting. Stop the "maybe"'s and the "who knows?" and the "someday"'s. And stop promising us representation and then taking it away.

This video began as a quick angry rant after Disney tried blocking my last video from going up. But it evolved into something else entirely. I started looking into the history of queerness in Disney movies and found a lot more than I was expecting.

And I shouldn't be surprised, because of course it's there! There's queerness everywhere because we are everywhere. We're storytellers and artists, craftsmen and animators, composers, lyricists, executives and producers. We help run the Disney parks, and we're in costume at those parks. So of course we've found our way into the history of Disney. As employees and fans, we represent Disney every single day...

And it's about damn time Disney starts representing us.

Based on the book
"Tinker Belles and Evil Queens"
by Sean Griffin

Written and Edited
by James Somerton

Thank you to my patrons!

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